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From: Matteo Merli <mmerli@apache.org>
Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 18:34:04 +0000
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation
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Great to hear that!

We will update the proposal wiki.

Matteo

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:32 AM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99d be willing to mentor as well.
>
> -Taylor
>
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All -
> >
> > That's 2 mentors. Is there a third?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 6, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> To be clear, yes, I would.
> >>
> >>> On May 5, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else interested in mentoring?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On May 1, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi -
> >>>>
> >>>> I had a discussion with Joe and another gentleman involved in Pulsar=
.
> >>>>
> >>>> They asked how long incubation takes. I answered that it depends. We
> reviewed some of the steps needed in Incubation particularly:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Release process with correct LICENSE and NOTICE
> >>>> - Community building requirement - especially accepting and promotin=
g
> someone new from outside the initial committers.
> >>>> - Everything on the ML meaning decisions which might be made in
> conversation need to be there for a review over a few rotations of the
> planet. I mentioned BFDLs not being what is wanted and told the 10 year o=
ld
> story of POI=E2=80=99s OOXML flame.
> >>>> - Build infrastructure questions regarding unit tests some of which
> will be preferred on clusters. Some are currently proprietary. I=E2=80=99=
m not sure
> what Apache Infra currently supports so negotiation is required.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that there is a good chance for a diverse community that wil=
l
> not be wholly dependent on Yahoo.
> >>>>
> >>>> End result - I am willing to sign up as a Mentor for Pulsar.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi John,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am trying to decide if I personally wish to mentor Pulsar and wil=
l
> be asking technical questions. IMO this is not appropriate to an Incubato=
r
> discussion. Anything that surfaces that is appropriate can be brought bac=
k
> to this discussion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is no intension to subvert Incubator process.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I certainly understand asynchronous global teams. I've spent many
> years working with development teams in Moscow and India.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We can have a separate discussion about how misunderstandings can
> cause email threads to totally blow up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 4:20 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm sorry but I'm a bit dumb founded by this part of the thread.
> I'll
> >>>>>> apologize up front for my bluntness.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In the incubator, we're trying to teach projects to deal with
> asynchronous
> >>>>>> communication.  The last thing we should be doing is encouraging
> phone
> >>>>>> calls/real time meetings.  If there are technical questions, and
> you feel
> >>>>>> they need to be answered prior to starting incubation that's
> perfectly fine
> >>>>>> - but try to get the answers in ways we would expect, via public
> mailing
> >>>>>> lists.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> John
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:17 PM Dave Fisher <
> dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am in California and could do a webex this Monday.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Jochen Theodorou <blackdrag@gmx.org=
>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 26.04.2017 23:19, Joe Francis wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We would like to submit the Pulsar proposal to the incubator.
> Our
> >>>>>>> draft is
> >>>>>>>>> available at:
> >>>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PulsarProposal
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A quick overview of Pulsar:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Pulsar is a highly scalable, low latency messaging platform
> running on
> >>>>>>>>> commodity hardware. It provides simple pub-sub semantics over
> topics,
> >>>>>>>>> guaranteed at-least-once delivery of messages, automatic cursor
> >>>>>>> management for
> >>>>>>>>> subscribers, and cross-datacenter replication.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Without really knowing the details of a messaging platform and
> even with
> >>>>>>> the danger of comparing apples and oranges... how would you
> compare for
> >>>>>>> example hazelcast based messaging to pulsar?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> bye Jochen
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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