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From Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Ignite - Persistent Store
Date Mon, 22 May 2017 20:04:12 GMT
Hi Niclas,

> On May 22, 2017, at 12:05 AM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
> 
> Originally, the IP Clearance was intended for "block contributions" larger
> than suitable for a Jira patch file, and from people outside the community.
> For example, it could be code that was made at SourceForge and IP Clearance
> was to make sure that the the OK/interest of the authors was recorded (via
> ICLAs, IIRC).
> 
> In this case, it seems that the author is on the PM, have an ICLA on file,
> the work is part of the same commit tree, so I see no reason for the ASF to
> doubt that he had the permission from the company to commit/push.

My understanding is that the code under review here was developed outside Apache and is larger
than suitable for a JIRA patch. 

So it is precisely the situation for which IP Clearance is intended.

Craig
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Niclas
> 
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 5:47 AM, Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Let's all read the documentation on IP Clearance so we have a common basis
>> for discussion.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 21, 2017, at 2:02 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 4:54 PM Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know all of the details of the code, but this is in regard to
>>>>> GridGain's grant via SGA of a persistent store system which is a
>>>>> substantial body of code not developed at Apache. So IMHO it is
>> appropriate
>>>>> for the code grant to be reviewed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Errr... wait a tick.  We've been told a few times that IP Clearance and
>> SGA
>>>> are binary.  You do one or the other, not both.
>>> 
>>> Reference, please. I recall that IP Clearance is for TLPs to vet large
>> donations.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>>> Specifically SGA is to
>>>> allow the modification of license (from X to Apache-V2.0) whereas IP
>>>> Clearance is verifying that all existing Apache-v2.0 donation is in fact
>>>> properly licensed (e.g. no hidden LGPL or other inappropriate licenses).
>>>> There's even a line in the SGA that puts the ownness on this to the
>> donator.
>>>> 
>>>> If GridGain has submitted an SGA then that SGA is what is used.  Have
>> they
>>>> actually submitted an SGA as well?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't see any issues except it's difficult (for me, a git novice) to
>>>>> figure out the exact donation. The reference is to a git repository
>> that is
>>>>> "194 commits ahead, 240 commits behind apache:master". Most of the
>> donated
>>>>> code is in “modules/pds”.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 20, 2017, at 8:53 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The commit referenced in the IP clearance reflects some changes in
a
>> pom
>>>>>> file.  Is that the only change?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In addition, the commit seems to be from Alexey Goncharuk, who is
>>>>> already a
>>>>>> committer from the foundation (has an ICLA) and is on the PMC for
>>>>> ignite...
>>>>>> so its not clear why an IP Clearance is needed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:42 PM Denis Magda <dmagda@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apache Ignite is receiving code for distributed Persistent Store.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/persistent-
>> distributed-store-ignite.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please vote to approve the donation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is a lazy consensus majority vote, open for at least 72
hours.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>> clr@apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java

Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo


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