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From Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Incubator Governance Change
Date Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:50:37 GMT
Mentors, like any other contributor, are volunteers. And have complex
schedules to juggle. Being in that role doesn't avoid (at all times)
missing a vote regarding a release. Thus it is not a guarantee.

We saw it happen in recent vote regarding the latest release of the
incubating Trafodion project, where none of the mentors voted when the vote
was held in the community. But as all other participating contributors
voted in favour of releasing, the vote was subsequently called in this ml.
See [1].

Now, we can argue that mentors have an obligation to vote on releases of an
incubating project first before the vote is taken to this ml. But that
could lead to unnecessary delays and frustration.

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eca13e52620d16c3f974bc5054d59af29fa98d30763d646829a3850@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid>
wrote:

> PS to make it clear: I was just refering to the point of podlings being
> able to let jenkins publish nightly builds to the ASF snapshots Maven repo.
>
> It was not meant as remark to any other of the discussed bullets.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
> > Am 24.04.2017 um 21:14 schrieb Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de.INVALID
> >:
> >
> > Many dozen podlings do exactly that.
> > Why should that not be allowed? Hell freezing over?
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> >> Am 23.04.2017 um 06:04 schrieb Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> roman@shaposhnik.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>> I don't
> >>> think releasing something out of ASF that hasn't had at least 3 binding
> >> votes
> >>> would be advisable.
> >>
> >> AFAIK, projects "publish" to
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache as
> part
> >> of CI build without vetting and votes. There are also other snapshots
> >> (example; https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/win/) that
> are
> >> not Maven artifacts.
> >>
> >> IF we allow those, then why not allow podlings to do the same thing?
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> --
> >> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> >> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
> >
> >
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