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From Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: The state of Sirona
Date Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:09:22 GMT
It is very sad to see a project failing at growing a community. Looking at
the various public sources, I see:

   - just 2 pull request since its start in incubation
   - no postings on the user ml since December 2015
   - only 3 committing contributors since start in incubation
   - No description (readme) in github
   - No mission statement/goal description of the project on the project's
   home page

I fear this will not turn around due to the lack of interest in the world
beyond the project. At the moment I am inclined to say: time for retirement.

Best regards,


Pierre Smits

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On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Hi John
>
> I think you did the right thing by bringing the point on the table.
>
> AFAIR I already stated some months ago that, regarding the activity and
> regarding the community around, we should really think about retirement of
> Sirona. Some can argue about the fact that Sirona is a "stable" project
> that's not really valid: if it's valid we should see questions, feature
> requests, etc coming from the user community. And obviously it's not the
> case. So I think that Sirona is just use for specific use cases in a very
> limited community.
>
> My €0.01 ;)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Apr 15, 2017, 15:49, at 15:49, "John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >All,
> >
> >I hate bringing up these topics.  But I think we as the IPMC we have to
> >take a close look at how Sirona is running and figure out what to do
> >next.
> >
> >- The podling has not reported in several months (this is their 3rd
> >attempt
> >at monthly).
> >- Every time the thought of retirement comes up, a little bit of
> >activity
> >on the project happens.  It doesn't sustain.
> >- There is some limited project history, but no real contribution in 6
> >months ( https://github.com/apache/sirona/commits/trunk )
> >
> >I personally don't want to see projects go, and I don't want to force a
> >project to leave, but at the same time I'm not convinced that there's
> >enough of a community behind the project to sustain it going forward.
> >They've put together a limited plan to get a release out the door, but
> >other than that I'm not sure they're going to be able to move forward.
> >
> >So I want to ask, as the IPMC, do we want to give them time to regroup?
> >
> >John
>

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