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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation
Date Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:36:54 GMT
Hi,

Thank you for the answers.

I am all for graduation if Metron.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Casey Stella <cestella@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> To clarify, we have 24 PPMC members, of which 12 are Hortonworks-affiliated
> and 12 are not. We have 6 additional committers who are not PPMC members.
> Some of them are affiliated and some of them are not. For the purpose of
> this, we only captured the affiliations of the PPMC members.
> 
> I did some quick analysis of the git log and found the following:
> 
> % Commits by Hortonworkers: 79%
> 
> % Contributors affiliated to Hortonworks: 42%
> 
> In associating affiliation, I am being as generous as possible and
> including people who I know to work at Hortonworks who may or may not be in
> the engineering organization.  I know that some of these people are
> contributing to Metron in their spare time as independent open source
> contributions.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Casey
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is
>>>> potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even when my
>>>> position may not please my employer.
>>>> 
>>>> As a mentor (to this and other podlings), I try to instill that ethic
>>>> during incubation and thereafter.
>>>> 
>>>> In the Metron community I see some that share that ethic. They selected
>> a
>>>> PMC Chair that gets it and I trust will serve the project well in that
>> role.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, the project is Hortonworks-heavy. But I think they are doing things
>>>> right in terms of the Apache Way. I also intend to participate in the
>> PMC
>>>> to help ensure it remains that way.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Agreed - from what I have seen, Hortonworks as a company understands the
>>> Apache Way and is able to ensure that it is held in open source projects.
>>> I see no concerns with Metron graduating.
>> 
>> Sure, but the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks understands
>> the Apache Way. It is what happens to Metron if HortonWorks is no longer
>> interested in the project?
>> 
>> Given the experience with OpenOffice I think we need to always ask this.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -Taylor
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are unaffiliated?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks affiliated
>>>> contributors?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella <cestella@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course, very fair question.  Also, yes, the we have 36 committers
>> as
>>>> all
>>>>>> PPMC members are committers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The affiliations are as follows:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hortonworks:
>>>>>> * Sheetal Dolas (sheetal_dolas)
>>>>>> * Larry McCay (lmccay)
>>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz)
>>>>>> * Ryan Merriman (rmerriman)
>>>>>> * James Sirota (jsirota)
>>>>>> * Casey Stella (cstella)
>>>>>> * David Lyle (lyle)
>>>>>> * Nick Allen (nickallen)
>>>>>> * George Vetticaden (gvetticaden)
>>>>>> * Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli (vinodkv)
>>>>>> * Kiran Komaravolu (kirankom)
>>>>>> * Michael Perez (mperez)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cisco:
>>>>>> * Debo Dutta (ddutta)
>>>>>> * Discovery Gerdes (discovery)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rackspace:
>>>>>> * Oskar Zabik (smogg)
>>>>>> * Andrew Hartnett (dev_warlord)
>>>>>> * Paul Kehrer (reaperhulk)
>>>>>> * Sean Schulte (sirsean)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> B23:
>>>>>> * Mark Bittmann (mbittmann)
>>>>>> * Dave Hirko (dbhirko)
>>>>>> * Brad Kolarov (bjkolly)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mantech:
>>>>>> * Charles Porter (cporter)
>>>>>> * Ray Urciuoli (rurcioli)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fogbeam Labs:
>>>>>> * Phillip Rhodes (prhodes)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:38 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The
community has
>>>>>>> come a
>>>>>>>>> long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable
>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>> and follow the Apache Way.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One minor nit: The paddling status page is missing a
few Apache
>> IDs,
>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>> see them in the resolution, so it's an easy fix.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Paddlings are always out of sync :-P
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One other nit - I'm not sure why you only have 6 committers.
 I
>> think
>>>> you
>>>>>>>> mean 30 committers (all PMC members are committers).  Can
you
>> provide
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> associations of PMC members and employers?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Metron PPMC,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can you respond? I feel this is a valid question.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Taylor
>>>>>>> 
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