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From Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation
Date Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:25:14 GMT
Hi Dave,

To clarify, we have 24 PPMC members, of which 12 are Hortonworks-affiliated
and 12 are not. We have 6 additional committers who are not PPMC members.
Some of them are affiliated and some of them are not. For the purpose of
this, we only captured the affiliations of the PPMC members.

I did some quick analysis of the git log and found the following:

% Commits by Hortonworkers: 79%

% Contributors affiliated to Hortonworks: 42%

In associating affiliation, I am being as generous as possible and
including people who I know to work at Hortonworks who may or may not be in
the engineering organization.  I know that some of these people are
contributing to Metron in their spare time as independent open source
contributions.


Best,

Casey

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem.
> >>
> >> I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is
> >> potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even when my
> >> position may not please my employer.
> >>
> >> As a mentor (to this and other podlings), I try to instill that ethic
> >> during incubation and thereafter.
> >>
> >> In the Metron community I see some that share that ethic. They selected
> a
> >> PMC Chair that gets it and I trust will serve the project well in that
> role.
> >>
> >> Yes, the project is Hortonworks-heavy. But I think they are doing things
> >> right in terms of the Apache Way. I also intend to participate in the
> PMC
> >> to help ensure it remains that way.
> >>
> >>
> > Agreed - from what I have seen, Hortonworks as a company understands the
> > Apache Way and is able to ensure that it is held in open source projects.
> > I see no concerns with Metron graduating.
>
> Sure, but the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks understands
> the Apache Way. It is what happens to Metron if HortonWorks is no longer
> interested in the project?
>
> Given the experience with OpenOffice I think we need to always ask this.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> >
> >> -Taylor
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks.
> >>>
> >>> Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are unaffiliated?
> >>>
> >>> What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks affiliated
> >> contributors?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella <cestella@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course, very fair question.  Also, yes, the we have 36 committers
> as
> >> all
> >>>> PPMC members are committers.
> >>>>
> >>>> The affiliations are as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hortonworks:
> >>>> * Sheetal Dolas (sheetal_dolas)
> >>>> * Larry McCay (lmccay)
> >>>> * P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz)
> >>>> * Ryan Merriman (rmerriman)
> >>>> * James Sirota (jsirota)
> >>>> * Casey Stella (cstella)
> >>>> * David Lyle (lyle)
> >>>> * Nick Allen (nickallen)
> >>>> * George Vetticaden (gvetticaden)
> >>>> * Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli (vinodkv)
> >>>> * Kiran Komaravolu (kirankom)
> >>>> * Michael Perez (mperez)
> >>>>
> >>>> Cisco:
> >>>> * Debo Dutta (ddutta)
> >>>> * Discovery Gerdes (discovery)
> >>>>
> >>>> Rackspace:
> >>>> * Oskar Zabik (smogg)
> >>>> * Andrew Hartnett (dev_warlord)
> >>>> * Paul Kehrer (reaperhulk)
> >>>> * Sean Schulte (sirsean)
> >>>>
> >>>> B23:
> >>>> * Mark Bittmann (mbittmann)
> >>>> * Dave Hirko (dbhirko)
> >>>> * Brad Kolarov (bjkolly)
> >>>>
> >>>> Mantech:
> >>>> * Charles Porter (cporter)
> >>>> * Ray Urciuoli (rurcioli)
> >>>>
> >>>> Fogbeam Labs:
> >>>> * Phillip Rhodes (prhodes)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:38 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community
has
> >>>>> come a
> >>>>>>> long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable
> >> community,
> >>>>>>> and follow the Apache Way.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> One minor nit: The paddling status page is missing a few
Apache
> IDs,
> >>>>> but I
> >>>>>>> see them in the resolution, so it's an easy fix.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Paddlings are always out of sync :-P
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One other nit - I'm not sure why you only have 6 committers.
 I
> think
> >> you
> >>>>>> mean 30 committers (all PMC members are committers).  Can you
> provide
> >> the
> >>>>>> associations of PMC members and employers?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Metron PPMC,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can you respond? I feel this is a valid question.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Taylor
> >>>>>
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