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From "Debo Dutta (dedutta)" <dedu...@cisco.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation
Date Sun, 26 Mar 2017 23:55:32 GMT
There are other folks from companies like Cisco who are also interested in the project. In
fact Metron grew out of OpenSOC efforts from Cisco.

debo

On 3/26/17, 11:59 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

    
    
    Sent from my iPhone
    
    > On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
    > 
    >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> 
    >> To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem.
    >> 
    >> I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is
    >> potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even when my
    >> position may not please my employer.
    >> 
    >> As a mentor (to this and other podlings), I try to instill that ethic
    >> during incubation and thereafter.
    >> 
    >> In the Metron community I see some that share that ethic. They selected a
    >> PMC Chair that gets it and I trust will serve the project well in that role.
    >> 
    >> Yes, the project is Hortonworks-heavy. But I think they are doing things
    >> right in terms of the Apache Way. I also intend to participate in the PMC
    >> to help ensure it remains that way.
    >> 
    >> 
    > Agreed - from what I have seen, Hortonworks as a company understands the
    > Apache Way and is able to ensure that it is held in open source projects.
    > I see no concerns with Metron graduating.
    
    Sure, but the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks understands the Apache
Way. It is what happens to Metron if HortonWorks is no longer interested in the project?
    
    Given the experience with OpenOffice I think we need to always ask this.
    
    Regards,
    Dave
    
    > 
    > 
    >> -Taylor
    >> 
    >> 
    >>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>> This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks.
    >>> 
    >>> Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are unaffiliated?
    >>> 
    >>> What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks affiliated
    >> contributors?
    >>> 
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Dave
    >>> 
    >>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella <cestella@gmail.com>
wrote:
    >>>> 
    >>>> Of course, very fair question.  Also, yes, the we have 36 committers
as
    >> all
    >>>> PPMC members are committers.
    >>>> 
    >>>> The affiliations are as follows:
    >>>> 
    >>>> Hortonworks:
    >>>> * Sheetal Dolas (sheetal_dolas)
    >>>> * Larry McCay (lmccay)
    >>>> * P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz)
    >>>> * Ryan Merriman (rmerriman)
    >>>> * James Sirota (jsirota)
    >>>> * Casey Stella (cstella)
    >>>> * David Lyle (lyle)
    >>>> * Nick Allen (nickallen)
    >>>> * George Vetticaden (gvetticaden)
    >>>> * Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli (vinodkv)
    >>>> * Kiran Komaravolu (kirankom)
    >>>> * Michael Perez (mperez)
    >>>> 
    >>>> Cisco:
    >>>> * Debo Dutta (ddutta)
    >>>> * Discovery Gerdes (discovery)
    >>>> 
    >>>> Rackspace:
    >>>> * Oskar Zabik (smogg)
    >>>> * Andrew Hartnett (dev_warlord)
    >>>> * Paul Kehrer (reaperhulk)
    >>>> * Sean Schulte (sirsean)
    >>>> 
    >>>> B23:
    >>>> * Mark Bittmann (mbittmann)
    >>>> * Dave Hirko (dbhirko)
    >>>> * Brad Kolarov (bjkolly)
    >>>> 
    >>>> Mantech:
    >>>> * Charles Porter (cporter)
    >>>> * Ray Urciuoli (rurcioli)
    >>>> 
    >>>> Fogbeam Labs:
    >>>> * Phillip Rhodes (prhodes)
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> 
    >>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:38 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community
has
    >>>>> come a
    >>>>>>> long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable
    >> community,
    >>>>>>> and follow the Apache Way.
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> One minor nit: The paddling status page is missing a few
Apache IDs,
    >>>>> but I
    >>>>>>> see them in the resolution, so it's an easy fix.
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Paddlings are always out of sync :-P
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> One other nit - I'm not sure why you only have 6 committers.
 I think
    >> you
    >>>>>> mean 30 committers (all PMC members are committers).  Can you
provide
    >> the
    >>>>>> associations of PMC members and employers?
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Metron PPMC,
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Can you respond? I feel this is a valid question.
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> -Taylor
    >>>>> 
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