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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: Creating a podlings@incubator.apache.org mailing list
Date Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:52:20 GMT

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
> 
> +1 for a podlings@ alias.
> 
> But what could you possibly want with a podlings-private@ ?  We are
> expected to keep private to a minimum, typically involving individuals or
> security issues, and I fail to see how that can apply to 50 or so very
> disperse projects, that changes over time. So I am -1 on that, until I hear
> some reasonable justification.

I agree. Private matters will tend to be on a case by case basis. In the rare case where an
all private email to all podlings must go out then each podling can be addressed one at a
time via cut and paste.

> 
> The pmcs@ alias is IMHO a bad alias and should be changed to go to dev@.
> Way back in time, we had pmc@foo.apache.org and the pmcs@ came out of that
> naming. BUT, we later recognized that pmc@ was being overused. The name
> invited that overuse and we changed it to private@ to signal its intent,
> but pmcs@ was left behind…

This is not an Incubator mailing list and therefore this is Off Topic.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> Cheers
> Niclas
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:17 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:00 PM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> Before I go ahead with it, wanted to see if others had any opinions.
>> I'm
>>>> planning to ask infra to create a podlings@i.a.o mailing list, which
>>> would
>>>> go to all podlings dev@ list.  There may be some scenarios where we
>> need
>>>> to
>>>> communicate out to all podlings.  For instance, the logo change and how
>>> it
>>>> impacts the podlings.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This would be more like an alias, similar to @PMCs right ? Also, in the
>>> past, some of these communications would go to podling private (e.g. Gsoc
>>> info) where there was a request for the podling pmc to discuss this
>>> appropriately in their dev lists? That might still be a viable approach.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Yes, I believe that's how infra would implement it.  It isn't meant to
>> replace general@ but instead allow us a convenient way to email blast all
>> podlings.
>> 
>> As I was typing the email, I thought about private lists.  I wouldn't mind
>> a podlings-private@i.a.o as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> BTW, podlings, particular podling mentors should (MUST) be following all
>>> pertinent general@ discussions.
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Mobile device
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://polygene.apache.org <http://zest.apache.org> - New Energy for Java


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