Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F22E200BFA for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:22:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 3DBF7160B35; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 84DA5160B34 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:22:40 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 69080 invoked by uid 500); 29 Dec 2016 03:22:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69031 invoked by uid 99); 29 Dec 2016 03:22:39 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:22:39 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f175.google.com (mail-yw0-f175.google.com [209.85.161.175]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id D01031A0617 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f175.google.com with SMTP id v81so97306699ywb.2 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:22:38 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI/bbsWbBlsnP4RUhzpaAACl14Rv0fTHiCIb5dybfS59Nrj25TEMajUcEFeAT/KAQnbw/hyh1LpjASSaA== X-Received: by 10.129.42.213 with SMTP id q204mr32371152ywq.342.1482981758082; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:22:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "John D. Ament" Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:22:27 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Drop the 2013 Alternate Voting Policy To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141e468e6290f0544c39805 archived-at: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:22:41 -0000 --001a1141e468e6290f0544c39805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've taken a stab at incorporating this sentiment into a new guide I'm working on, rather than updating the existing release guides. Explained in the other email. Take a look and let me know if you feel I've misstated anything. John On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > On 27 December 2016 at 20:44, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > > I'd rather not sanctify exceptions with a precise list, but rather stop > at: > > > > "During incubation, a podling's release package may not be perfect. It > > ... package may not be fully in compliance with [ASF release > policy](https://www.apache.org/dev/release.html). > > > will be up to mentors and IPMC members > > to define the appropriate leeway". > > ... as long as it is [legal](https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html). > > > +1 to a more abstract text - as long as the podling release is legally > sound (e.g. does not include material we can't distribute under ASF > license) we can still permit it, even if it's not according to policy. > > However it would be a judgement per podling - if a podling has been > told for two releases for instance to fix their NOTICE, then a third > release might be downvoted (not blocked) for that reason. It could > also happen that an issue is not identified until later - so it's not > easy to write it down as strict rules - and I think we've the current > practice is about right. Some "just enough" formalizing of that > practice, as Roman proposes, will help keep it along those lines also > for the future. > > -- > Stian Soiland-Reyes > http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --001a1141e468e6290f0544c39805--