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From Edward Zhang <yonzhang2...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduating Apache Eagle
Date Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:21:20 GMT
Thanks for fixing download link issue.

Since the discussion is calming down, we would like to start VOTE thread
soon if there is no more comment or concern, thanks so much for your
participation.

Thanks
Edward

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Hao Chen <hao@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks Taylor and others for the suggestions, and here are some fixes as
> following:
>
>    - Add download link in home page [1]
>    - Fix git link to apache git-wip-us repository in eagle download page
> [2]
>    - Add signatures (md5,asm, sha1) [3] and verification KEYS [4]
>
> [1] http://eagle.incubator.apache.org
> [2] http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/download-latest.html
> [3]
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/eagle/
> apache-eagle-0.4.0-incubating/
> [4] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/eagle/KEYS
>
> - Hao
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:34 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The main download page [1] is a little off, but shouldn’t be terribly
> hard
> > to fix.
> >
> > - The main download link correctly uses closer.cgi, but is missing links
> > to dist.a.o for the signatures/checksums and instructions on how to
> verify
> > the archive.
> > - The release notes link correctly links to git-wip-us.a.o.
> > - The git tag link incorrectly links to GitHub. It should link to the ASF
> > git repository.
> > - The git commit link also incorrectly links to GitHub.
> >
> > The last two aren’t required and could be removed or simply changed to
> > point to the right place.
> >
> > The signatures/checksums are in the right place on dist.a.o [2] so adding
> > links to them is fairly trivial. I’d also just change the GitHub link on
> > the home to be a download link.
> >
> > I would think the above issues could be addressed before the graduation
> > discussion completes. Post graduation I’d recommend a thorough review of
> > the website from an ASF branding perspective.
> >
> > -Taylor
> >
> >
> > [1] http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/download-0.4.0.html <
> > http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/download-0.4.0.html>
> > [2] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/eagle/
> > apache-eagle-0.4.0-incubating/
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 7, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Looking a the home page http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/ <
> > http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/>  I think that Eagle should make
> > Apache branding clearer for people who do not scroll down past the fold,
> > remove the prominent GitHub link, and add a “Download” button to a
> standard
> > download page with instructions on check-sums.
> > >
> > > I will make sure that this happens immediately after graduation.
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Dec 7, 2016, at 4:30 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I believe this page is also relevant to what Stian's pointing out
> > >> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-download-pages.html#links
> > >>
> > >> I will say this line looks wrong on the page, and probably is missing
> a
> > >> "not" - which would preclude pointing to github for downloads (I added
> > the
> > >> *not*)
> > >>
> > >> Artifacts which are not full official releases (for example,
> milestones,
> > >> betas and alphas) may *not* be linked from the download page. Links to
> > >> these artifacts should be removed in a timely fashion.
> > >>
> > >> It is a bit odd that your downloads page is not linked from the
> > homepage,
> > >> but it is available within the docs.  But that's an optimization not a
> > rule.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:16 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <stain@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> This download page does not fully comply with the ASF distribution
> > policy,
> > >>> which says there should also be a link to the signature and
> > description of
> > >>> how to check it:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/download-0.4.0.html
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html#distribution_dist
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Is a direct link from front page to an ( implicitly "endorsed"?)
> > >>> third-party site GitHub (and no link to ASF downloads) OK according
> to
> > >>> policy? I would have included a traditional Download link - it's OK
> for
> > >>> that page to include both the source code and Maven coordinates, but
> I
> > >>> don't think we should encourage downstream to "download from GitHub"
> at
> > >>> this stage as it conflates what is a PMC-voted ASF release or not.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 6 Dec 2016 11:22 pm, "Roman Shaposhnik" <roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Henry Saputra <
> > henry.saputra@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> HI Roman, John,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Most of the mentors have full plate to do and especially need
to
> help
> > >>>>> existing podling to be successful in incubator.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Taylor has been very gracious to stay as  initial member of
PMCs,
> so
> > >>>>> we have 1 ASF member, which I think good enough and will be
seed to
> > >>>>> invite more Apache Eagle PMCs to be ASF member.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Other than that, I don't the the current members should have
good
> > >>>>> level of diversity.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If you looked at Apache Geode when it proposed for graduation,
it
> has
> > >>>>> 22 PMCs from Pivotal only one or two from different orgs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The majority of podlings that come as projects from a single vendor
> > >>>> struggle
> > >>>> with PMC diversity. But this gives them even more of a reason to
> come
> > up
> > >>>> with creative ways to mitigate it. This is exactly what Geode had
to
> > >>> think
> > >>>> about
> > >>>> and I hope Eagle will think about as well.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> ALL mentors in Eagle believe that the community have been operating
> > in
> > >>>>> the Apache way, create releases, invite new committers, and
follow
> > all
> > >>>>> communications in Apache resources.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Good to know! The mentor's vouching for it helps me a lot.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Quick question to the community: why is there no way to download
> > releases
> > >>>> of the software that are linked from the
> > http://eagle.incubator.apache.
> > >>>> org/ ?
> > >>>> Is GitHub being treated as the way to distribute it?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Roman.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> >
> >
>

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