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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 00:36:10 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
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Notes on the NetBeans infrastructure from the NetBeans build engineer. Who
from Apache infra is going to do 1:1 discovery?

Public servers:
- www.netbeans.org: The core of the netbeans.org project, as well as user
management, bugzilla, and mailing lists.
- hg.netbeans.org: 1 VM with 32 Mercurial repositories. The main
repositories are main-golden, main-silver, releases, and all team
repositories (core-main, cnd-main, jet-main, profiler-main, ergonomics),
localization repository (releases/l10n). Several of the repos are inactive
and don't need to be migrated. Repos are available via http/https. The
server doesn=E2=80=99t have its own authentication mechanism. Authenticatio=
n for
pushes is realized via JSON request from www.netbeans.org. The special
directory http://hg.netbeans.org/binaries/ on the server contains and
provides 3rd party libraries.
- deadlock.netbeans.org: 6 VMs, used mainly for propagation of changes
between team repositories and to the releases repository, including jobs
for building community plugins (releases*-au) and jobs for prototype
projects.
- bits.netbeans.org: 1 VM, which is the backup download server and is the
server for Javahelp and JNLP. The Nexus server runs there and it provides
NetBeans Maven artifacts.
- downloads.oracle.com and updates.netbeans.org: The main download server
for installers and update centers. Bits are in fact published on Akami
servers all over the world. The server is not under NetBeans team control.
We only upload data to a specific place and they are processed somehow by
Akami.
- statistics.netbeans.org: A machine providing statistics on NetBeans usage=
.
- plugins.netbeans.org: The server for community plugins.
- forums.netbenas.org: NetBeans forums.
- services.netbeans.org: Services such as anti spam filters for bugzilla
are here, as well as weekly NetBeans newsletter maintenance.

Internal servers:
- nbbuilder: 5 VMs. The Hudson server with its slaves, where nightly builds
and release builds are run.
- nbbuilder2: 5 VMs. The Hudson server with its slaves, where Maven
repositories are generated.
- big-mac: Physical machine used for Mac OS X installers.
- nbstrorage: Internal storage for all NetBeans bits, access is allowed for
internal users only via HTTP.
- Oracle signing server: NetBeans build jobs using Oracle signing
infrastructure for signing installers and NBMs.

Comments or follow up to the above?

Thanks,

Gj


On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Shane Curcuru <asfl@shanecurcuru.org>
wrote:

> Mitch Claborn wrote on 9/15/16 11:07 AM:
> > I'm very new in this type of thing. I have zero experience with ASF,
> > etc, so if this is out of line, please forgive and I'll keep silent.
> >
> > I've seen a lot of discussion about the HOW in terms of moving NetBeans
> > to the Apache project, but not much/any discussion about WHY. I'm not a
> > NetBeans coder/contributor, but simply someone who uses it 8+ hours per
> > day in my normal job.
> >
> > My main question is: will moving NetBeans to Apache result in a better
> > product for people like me? If so, what particular aspects of moving
> > will make that happen? Are there other projects that have made a simila=
r
> > move and experienced higher quality as a result?
>
> As Bertrand noted else-thread: the move is because the actual people
> planning to *work on the code* want to make the move (and obviously
> Oracle is happy to help with the IP donations).
>
> Apache is here to help communities of individual contributors build
> software products for the public good.  We welcome any community that
> wants to use the Apache Way of open, collaborative decision making, and
> that will use our license and other structures.  The existing people
> actually coding NetBeans are making the proposal, and the Apache
> Incubator is happy to review it to see if it will fit here (seems like
> it will, albeit with plenty of licensing and infrastructure changes).
>
> Many people believe that in the long run it *will* make for a better
> product for users, because becoming an independently governed project at
> the ASF will draw in more code (and test, doc, plugin, etc.)
> contributors from new places to help improve the product.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> - Shane
>
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