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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:30:42 +0200
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Subject: Re: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Ate Douma wrote:

If can send out the vote mail in about an hour or so if everyone is OK.
>

Bottom line -- we've discussed a lot already and we'll be discussing a lot
more during incubation.

The NetBeans community is large and diverse. Some might have less of an
understanding of this process and its consequences than others.

That is not a problem because any services and any assumptions that Apache
is unable to meet can be carried by one or more organizations -- after due
discussion and legal handling etc with Apache -- from which one or more
individual contributors will come into Apache NetBeans.

There is a lot at stake on both ends, I think -- i.e., at the end of this
process Apache gets the NetBeans codebase, domains, trademarks, and
everything else. On the other end, NetBeans gets the home its always
wanted. It's a completely equal match and will work out for everyone to the
benefit of all.

There are several precarious sliding pieces though the end goal will unite
everything.

Gj


On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Ate Douma <ate@douma.nu> wrote:

> On 2016-09-27 18:12, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads, it
>>> will be
>>> useful to know what voting means, who can vote, what 'binding votes' are,
>>> etc etc...
>>>
>>
>> Ok we can add that info in concise form once the vote thread starts.
>> Basically, only Incubator PMC members votes are binding (meaning
>> "legally valid" as far as the ASF is concerned), people shouldn't
>> hijack the VOTE thread for discussions (start new threads if needed)
>> and that's a majority vote that lasts >= 72 hours.
>>
>> Votes from other people are welcome as an indication of peoples
>> enthusiasm (or lack thereof).
>>
>> Geertjan, are you ok with starting the vote?
>>
>> I'm currently at a conference with little time, if another mentor
>> wants to start it that's fine with me. Make sure to include the text
>> of https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
>>
>
> If can send out the vote mail in about an hour or so if everyone is OK.
>
> Ate
>
>
>
>> -Bertrand
>>
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