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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 00:03:09 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
To: general@incubator.apache.org, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
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This is the applicable repo to be cloning:

hg clone http://hg.netbeans.org/main/

See the related FAQ on the NetBeans Wiki:

http://wiki.netbeans.org/DevFaqAccessSourcesUsingMercurial

Gj

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid>
wrote:

> quick update.
>
>
> hg cloned it locally and now batch importing over here.
> The hg clone took me 3 hours and the import is now running for 4 hours.
>
> Maybe that is the problem why github failed.
>
> I'm now at 89000/303000 in the import step.
>
> If I succeed then I'll push it to github.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sunday, 18 September 2016, 18:24, Mark Struberg
> <struberg@yahoo.de.INVALID> wrote:
> > > btw, I tried to import the netbeans-core repo from hg into github and
> it failed.
> > Now trying to manually import it...
> >
> > Did anybody else do that?
> >
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>  On Sunday, 18 September 2016, 18:22, Dennis E. Hamilton
> > <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
> >>  > +1
> >>
> >>
> >>>   -----Original Message-----
> >>>   From: Greg Stein [mailto:gstein@gmail.com]
> >>>   Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 00:46
> >>>   To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>>   Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
> >>>
> >>>   On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> >>>   geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   > Hi all,
> >>>   >
> >>>   > Can we be specific about what info is needed, or what further
> > details
> >>>   > specifically, before going into a vote for acceptance of the
> > proposal?
> >>>   My
> >>>   > concern is that each question we answer is answered by further
> >>>   questions to
> >>>   > answer. Maybe we could do a phone conference with the NetBeans
> >>>   > infrastructure side together with the Apache infrastructure side.
> >>>   Maybe we
> >>>   > can work through the infrastructure challenges during incubation.
> >>>   >
> >>>
> >>>   Generally speaking, Apache would prefer to slow things down and use a
> >>>   mailing list, rather than to have a phone conference. The email is
> >>>   documented for everybody to review, to participate, and to record for
> >>>   future examination. A phone conference probably wouldn't resolve
> > many
> >>>   questions/concerns anyway, simply because much of that comes from
> >>>   considered thought. A phone call is "THINK NOW. RESPOND. OOPS.
> > MISSED
> >>>   YOUR
> >>>   CHANCE." ... Mailing lists give people time to think.
> >>>
> >>>   There is no rush, no dates, no deadlines at the ASF. It may take
> > longer
> >>>   via
> >>>   mailing lists, but it means that the larger community can be
> involved,
> >>>   can
> >>>   review, and can be archived.
> >>>
> >>>   If one question turns into three ... well, that is deliberation. As
> >>>   David
> >>>   noted else-thread, we rarely get such a large, well-established
> >>>   community
> >>>   arriving at the Incubator. That necessitates a bit more inquiry than
> >>>   most
> >>>   other entrants receive. Layers of the onion get peeled, and new
> >>>   questions
> >>>   arrive. More layers unpeeled ...
> >>>
> >>>   And to point to the elephant in the room: I bet there are people
> >>>   concerned
> >>>   given the recent misadventures of AOO [and Oracle's donations of
> > these
> >>>   two
> >>>   projects]. Personally, I think it is hogwash, and don't believe
> > any
> >>>   concern
> >>>   applies here, as the communities and the userbase are very different.
> >>>   BUT,
> >>>   temporally, there is a conflation of the donations of these two
> >>>   projects. I
> >>>   suspect that will cause a few people to slow down and ask more
> >>>   questions.
> >>>
> >>>   Cheers,
> >>>   -g
> >>
> >>
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