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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:13:23 +0000
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator
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+1 (enthusiastic, non-binding)

Em ter, 27 de set de 2016 =C3=A0s 17:30, Ate Douma <ate@douma.nu> escreveu:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
> please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator.
>
> The ASF voting rules are described at:
>     http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> A vote for accepting a new Apache Incubator podling is a majority vote
> for which only Incubator PMC member votes are binding.
>
> Votes from other people are also welcome as an indication of peoples
> enthusiasm (or lack thereof).
>
> Please do not use this VOTE thread for discussions.
> If needed, start a new thread instead.
>
> This vote will run for at least 72 hours. Please VOTE as follows
> [] +1 Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator
> [] +0 Abstain.
> [] -1 Do not accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator because ...
>
>
> The proposal is listed below, but you can also access it on the wiki:
>     https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ate.
>
> =3D=3D Abstract =3D=3D
>
> NetBeans is an open source development environment, tooling platform, and
> application framework, used by 1.5 million individuals each month.
>
> =3D=3D Proposal =3D=3D
> Apache NetBeans will continue to focus on the areas it has focused on whi=
le
> sponsored by Sun Microsystems and Oracle. It will continue to primarily
> focus on
> providing tools for the Java ecosystem, while also being focused on tools
> for
> other ecosystems, languages and technologies, such as JavaScript, PHP, an=
d
> C/C++. It will continue to actively support its community by means of
> mailing
> lists, tutorials, and documentation.
>
> =3D=3D Background =3D=3D
> NetBeans started in 1995/96 in Prague, in the Czech Republic, as a studen=
t
> project. Sun Microsystems acquired and open sourced it in 2000 and, with
> the
> acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle in 2010, became part of Oracle.
> Throughout its history in Sun Microsystems and Oracle, NetBeans has been
> free
> and open source and has been leveraged by its sponsor as a mechanism for
> driving
> the Java ecosystem forward.
>
> =3D=3D Rationale =3D=3D
> Although NetBeans is already open source, moving it to a neutral place li=
ke
> Apache, with its strong governance model, is expected to help get more
> contributions from various organizations. For example, large companies ar=
e
> using
> NetBeans as an application framework to build internal or commercial
> applications and are much more likely to contribute to it once it moves t=
o
> neutral Apache ground. At the same time, though Oracle will relinquish it=
s
> control over NetBeans, individual contributors from Oracle are expected t=
o
> continue contributing to NetBeans after it has been contributed to Apache=
,
> together with individual contributors from other organizations, as well a=
s
> self-employed individual contributors.
>
> =3D=3D Initial Goals =3D=3D
> The initial goals of the NetBeans contribution under the Apache umbrella
> are to
> establish a new home for an already fully functioning project and to open
> up the
> governance model so as to simplify and streamline contributions from the
> community.
>
> =3D=3D Current Status =3D=3D
>      Meritocracy: NetBeans has been run by Oracle, with the majority of
> code
> contributions coming from Oracle. The specific reason for moving to Apach=
e
> is to
> expand the diversity of contributors and to increase the level of
> meritocracy in
> NetBeans. Apache NetBeans will be actively seeking new contributors and
> will
> welcome them warmly and provide a friendly and productive environment for
> purposes of providing a development environment, tooling environment, and
> application framework.
>
>      Community: NetBeans has approximately 1.5 million active users aroun=
d
> the
> world, in extremely diverse structures and organizations. NetBeans is use=
d
> by
> teachers and instructors at schools and universities to teach Java and
> other
> languages. It is used by students as an educational tool. It is used by
> large
> organizations who base their software on the application framework beneat=
h
> NetBeans. It is used by web developers for creating web sites and by
> developers
> using a range of tools, languages, and technologies to be productive and
> efficient software developers.
>
>      Core Developers: The core developers will come from a range of
> organizations, including Oracle, which will continue its investment in
> NetBeans.
>
>      Alignment: The application framework is the basis of a range of
> mission
> critical scientific software at large organizations in defense, aerospace=
,
> logistics, and research, such as at Boeing, Airbus Defense and Space,
> NASA, and
> NATO.
>
> =3D=3D Known Risks =3D=3D
>      Orphaned Products: The community proposing NetBeans for incubation i=
s
> strong
> and vibrant. The size and diversity of the community is a guarantee
> against the
> project being orphaned.
>
>      Inexperience with Open Source: NetBeans has been free and open sourc=
e
> since
> the early days of its sponsorship by Sun Microsystems. Though some in the
> NetBeans community may have worked on Apache projects, the majority who
> haven't
> are well versed in the principles of open source.
>
>      Homogenous Developers: Individual contributors from Oracle and other
> initial
> committer organizations will contribute code to NetBeans in Apache, while
> at the
> same time individuals from other organizations will actively be sought to
> be
> added to the project. The aim of the move to Apache is precisely to open
> up the
> governance model, hence the desire to build up an extremely heterogeneous
> developer base is strong. For example, several organizations are very
> heavily
> invested in the NetBeans application framework, having based their softwa=
re
> suites on top of it, hence there will be a significant interest to make
> available individual contributors from these organizations, which tend to
> be
> large and well established in the software industry. Also, including and
> beyond
> these organizations, the NetBeans community around the world is extremely
> diverse and heterogenous in relation to geography and backgrounds of
> developers.
>
>      Reliance on Salaried Developers: Most of the contributors are
> anticipated to
> be paid to work on projects in the Java ecosystem. Others will come from
> organizations where they are paid to work with other languages and
> technologies,
> such as JavaScript, PHP, and C/C++. However, since Java skills are needed
> to
> develop most parts of NetBeans, it is unlikely that the developers will g=
o
> very
> far outside the Java ecosystem.
>
>      Relationships with Other Apache Products: Many Apache projects have
> been
> supported by tooling in NetBeans over the years, such as Apache Ant and
> Apache
> Maven. A number of Apache projects are used by NetBeans, such as Apache
> Commons
> and friends.
>
>      An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand: NetBeans has a stron=
g
> brand
> of its own. Though the stability of the Apache ecosystem is attractive, t=
he
> reason for this proposal is simply to be part of the neutral development
> sharing
> ecosystem that Apache makes available.
>
> =3D=3D Documentation =3D=3D
> See https://netbeans.org/kb/index.html for an extensive portal to all the
> documentation.
>
> =3D=3D Initial Source =3D=3D
> The initial source is in Mercurial at hg.netbeans.org and will be moved,
> with
> assistance from Apache infra team, to Apache Git.
>
> =3D=3D Source and IP Submission Plan =3D=3D
> NetBeans is dual licensed, CDDL + GPL v2 with Classpath Exception. Upon
> entering
> Apache, the NetBeans license will be migrated to the current Apache
> License.
>
> =3D=3D Trademarks =3D=3D
> Oracle owns trademark registrations for the NetBeans mark in the U.S. and
> EU,
> and would donate those, including the name "NetBeans" and the "
> netbeans.org"
> domain, to the Apache Foundation, along with other artifacts, including
> the U.S.
> copyright registrations related to NetBeans. The trademark and copyright
> transfers would be detailed in separate documents.
>
> =3D=3D External Dependencies =3D=3D
> NetBeans is a large project with multiple dependencies and some changes
> may be
> needed during incubation to comply with Apache requirements.
>
> https://netbeans.org/downloads/licence/8.1/nb81-THIRDPARTYLICENSE.txt
>
> Identifying which dependencies are core and non-core will be needed as
> part of
> the process in meeting Apache requirements about third-party dependencies=
.
> (L)GPL (and possibly other) based dependencies and usages will need to be
> reviewed, and solved, as Apache does not allow (L)GPL dependencies,
> although
> these concerns can be resolved during incubation, and are not upfront
> blockers.
>
> =3D=3D Required Resources =3D=3D
>
>   * Mailing Lists: dev, user, committs, and private @netbeans.apache.org
>   * Wiki
>   * Website
>   * Source Control: Git
>   * Issue Tracking
>   * Release Infrastructure - Hudson/Jenkins, etc
>
> =3D=3D=3D Specific Infrastructure Requests =3D=3D=3D
>
>   * SIR01 Migration of large existing Mercurial repository to Apache Git
>   * SIR02 Migration of internal Oracle release infrastructure to Apache
>     infrastructure
>   * SIR04 Migration of website and related content management system to
> Apache
>     infrastructure
>   * SIR05 Evaluation and identification of other NetBeans infrastructure
> to be
>     migrated to Apache infastructures
>
> SIR03 was initially mentioned as the migration of plugins.netbeans.org to
> Apache
> infrastructure but after discussing the proposal we have decided to remov=
e
> that
> goal for now.
> The plugins service will eventually have to migrate, but that can happen
> separately from the project incubation process.
>
> =3D=3D Initial Committers =3D=3D
>
> Below is the initial list of individual contributors, while more individu=
al
> contributors will be added during incubation.
>
> ASF members with a specific interest in the project are welcome to reques=
t
> being
> added to this list of initial committers.
>
> After the project has been accepted and started in the incubator,
> additional
> committers can join, as usual, based upon their merit in the project.
>
> *Bold* means that there has already been code contributed to NetBeans,
> while
> those without bold means that the contributor has an intention to
> contribute to
> Apache NetBeans while not having done so before. That does not mean that
> those
> in bold are better or worse, just that they'll be able to get started mor=
e
> quickly in Apache NetBeans since they've worked with the NetBeans source
> code
> before.
>
> Note: Some of the individual contributors listed below belong in multiple
> different categories, e.g., NetBeans Dream Team members are often NetBean=
s
> plugin developers too, etc, while some of those in the NetBeans Platform
> customers category are also NetBeans Dream Team members, etc.
>
>   * Individual contributors from the NetBeans team at Oracle.
>    1. *Dusan Balek*
>    2. *Jaroslav Havlin*
>    3. *Jiri Kovalsky*
>    4. *Jiri Prox*
>    5. *Jiri Sedlacek*
>    6. *Jiri Skrivanek*
>    7. *Libor Fischmeister*
>    8. *Martin Balin*
>    9. *Martin Entlicher*
>   10. *Miloslav Metelka*
>   11. *Milutin Kristofic*
>   12. *Ondrej Vrabec*
>   13. *Petr Gebauer*
>   14. *Petr Hejl*
>   15. *Petr Pisl*
>   16. *Svatopluk Dedic*
>   17. *Tomas Hurka*
>   18. *Tomas Mysik*
>   19. *Tomas Stupka*
>   20. *Tomas Zezula*
>
>   * Individual contributors from the Oracle Developer Studio team at
> Oracle.
>    1. *Alexander Simon*
>    2. *Danila Sergeyev*
>    3. *Dmitry Zharkov*
>    4. Don Kretsch
>    5. *Ilia Gromov*
>    6. Liang Chen
>    7. *Maria Dalmatova*
>    8. *Petr Kudriavtsev*
>    9. *Vladimir Kvashin*
>   10. *Vladimir Voskresensky*
>
>   * Individual contributors from the Oracle JET team at Oracle.
>    1. *Geertjan Wielenga*
>    2. *John Brock*
>
>   * Individual contributors from the Oracle Labs team at Oracle.
>    1. *Jaroslav Tulach*
>    2. Thomas Wuerthinger
>
>   * Individual contributors from the Java Platform Group at Oracle.
>    1. *Jan Lahoda*
>
>   * Individual contributors from NetBeans Platform customers.
>    1. Sven Reimers (Airbus Defence and Space)
>    2. Martin Klaehn (Airbus Defence and Space)
>    3. Florian Vogler (Airbus Defence and Space)
>    4. J=C3=B6rg Michelberger (Airbus Defence and Space)
>    5. Norman Fomferra (European Space Agency)
>    6. Marco Peters (European Space Agency)
>    7. Tonio Fincke (European Space Agency)
>    8. Mike Kelly (US DOD)
>    9. Timon Veenstra (Corizon BV)
>   10. Kendrik Veenstra (Corizon BV)
>   11. Francesco Perez Duran (Corizon BV)
>   11. Christian Stolz (Janitza)
>   13. Ernest Lotter (Institute of Mine Seismology)
>   14. Neil C. Smith (Praxis LIVE)
>   15. Valentin Buergel (Simtec Buergel AG)
>   16. Stephen Cumminger (Sonideft)
>   17. Steven Yi (blue)
>   18. Henry Arousell (Bj=C3=B6rn Lund=C3=A9n Information AB)
>   19. Thomas Boqvist (Bj=C3=B6rn Lund=C3=A9n Information AB)
>   20. Zoran Sevarac (University of Belgrade)
>
>   * Individual contributors from ex-Sun and ex-Oracle employees.
>    1. James Gosling (Liquid Robotics)
>    2. Mike Duigou (Liquid Robotics)
>    3. *Jesse Glick*
>    4. *Milos Kleint* (Atlassian)
>    5. *Radim Kubacki* (currently NBAndroid.org)
>    6. *Ralph Benjamin Ruijs* (ex refactoring guru from NetBeans team, now
> at
>        Rockstars IT)
>    7. *Tim Boudreau* (ex window system guru from NetBeans team)
>    8. *Viktor Lapitsky* (dev/deployment/debug)
>
>   * Individual contributors from NetBeans Dream Team.
>    1. Aljoscha Rittner (ETable/Outline component features)
>    2. Andreas Stefik (accessibility features)
>    3. *Anton Epple* (DukeScript plugin from Dukehoff)
>    4. Aristides Villareal (documentation, testing)
>    5. *Benno Markiewicz* (various independent plugins)
>    6. Bruno Souza (SouJava)
>    7. Christian Lenz (website redesigner and more)
>    8. Constantin Drabo (testing, quality control)
>    9. David Heffelfinger (documentation in Java EE area)
>   10. *Emilian Bold* (various plugins from Joseki Bold SRL)
>   11. Hermien Pellissier (documentation, testing)
>   12. Ivar Grimstad (JPA Modeler and MVC tooling)
>   13. Josh Juneau (documentation, testing, MVC tooling)
>   14. Kirk Pepperdine (jClarity)
>   15. Johan Vos (Gluon plugin from Gluon)
>   16. Jose Pereda (Gluon plugin from Gluon)
>   17. John Kostaras (documentation, testing)
>   18. Liang Ding (Chinese translator)
>   19. Mark Stephens (JavaFX PDF viewer plugin from IDR Solutions)
>   20. Martijn Verburg (jClarity)
>   21. Michael Nascimento Santos (Improving CEO, working on refactoring
> tools)
>   22. Michael Mueller
>   23. Michel Graciano (tests, documentation)
>   24. Tushar Joshi (various plugins, documentation, testing)
>   25. *Wade Chandler* (Independent, working on Groovy support)
>   26. Zoran Sevarac (plugins for teaching/education)
>
>   * Individual contributors from NetBeans plugin developers.
>    1. Georgia Ingham (JavaFX PDF viewer plugin from IDR Solutions)
>    2. *Emmanuel Hugonnet* (WildFly plugin from Red Hat)
>    3. Shai Almog (Codename One plugin from Codename One)
>    4. Steve Hannah (Codename One plugin from Codename One)
>    5. Attila Kelemen (independent Gradle plugin)
>    6. Denis Anisimov (Vaadin plugin from Vaadin)
>    7. Gaurav Gupta (independent JPA Modeler plugin)
>    8. Junichi Yamamoto (PHP-related plugins)
>    9. Bruno Flavio (Groovy/Grails-related code)
>   10. Leonardo Loch Zanivan (JSHint)
>   11. Mattias Blaesing (various plugins)
>
>   * Miscellaneous
>    1. Anuradha Gunasekara (Maven tools)
>    2. Steve Millidge (Payara Services)
>    3. Andrew Pielage (Payara Services)
>    4. Gui Chulin (translation)
>    5. Yi Zhao (translation)
>    6. Liyuan Li (translation)
>    7. CunHui Lin (translation)
>    8. Lei Cao (translation)
>
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