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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:57:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings (was: [DISCUSS] Apache
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From: Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org>
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archived-at: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 17:57:43 -0000

Daniel this is great work. Thank you for outlining this. Wow!

Chris


On 9/24/16, 3:17 AM, "Daniel Gruno" <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:

    Hi folks,
    
    I've been going over the requirements for NetBeans infrastructure, it's
    ballpark costs, bandwidth, machines needed and so forth, and the cliff
    notes are as follows:
    
    - 40-50TB/month in traffic required (mostly downloads+plugins)
    - 8-13 machines/VMS are required
    - Ballpark hardware costs are between $3k and $10k per year, depending
      on how much we can move to existing infrastructure and how close we
      come to the original setup. The most likely figure we are working with
      is $4.9k, but we should be prepared for a larger cost, just in case.
    - The maintenance will be split between infra (downloads, web site, CI,
      new build machines) and the project (services, plugins, statistics),
      which will undoubtedly incur additional costs in terms of infra time
      spent on this, possibly to the tune of $10-20k in the initial phase.
    
    Certain services like the plugins hosting will rely on Legal giving the
    go-ahead for it, otherwise we'll have to find other people willing to
    host this.
    
    Other items like downloads may be offset by CDN providers offering their
    assistance, but we should be prepared for this not being the case from
    the beginning, thus the 40-50TB/month. Likewise, some machine costs
    may be offset by cloud providers offering services for free.
    
    Thus, I would submit to the IPMC that they consider asking the board for
    a budget of roughly $10k per year for the NetBeans project, as well as
    the additional time required of Infrastructure to implement this into
    the existing ASF infra. As we may be able to pool resources and utilize
    the new hardware for multiple projects, the cost may go down in the
    coming years, but this is the baseline I suggest we consider when
    approving NetBeans as a new podling.
    
    With regards,
    Daniel.
    
    
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