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From David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:28:26 GMT
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Incubator PMC,
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal ...
>
> At this point I ask anyone with concerns or questions that haven't
> been addressed so far and would prevent us from voting on this
> proposal to chime in.
>

Yes, please don't start a vote just yet. There's still plenty of
questions that need to be answered from an infrastructure perspective.
This is a large project with lots of moving parts potentially moving
into the ASF - 2 days really isn't enough discovery yet.

I'll note that plenty of questions from my original list that haven't
yet been answered.

But here are a few more questions:

The size of the binaries appears pretty large - what is the typical
total size of all the binaries that you release at a single time? What
are the typical download counts upon release/or bandwidth consumed. My
suspicion is that you are pretty close to OpenOffice style numbers in
terms of total size. That might cause some of our mirrors to balk at
hosting/delivering your binaries.

There appears to be 7 months before plugins.netbeans.o disappears.
That isn't a lot of time, assuming that plugins.nb.o is not going to
live at the ASF, what's the projects plans? Frankly, I worry that in 6
months this will suddenly become a huge priority and that the project
will ask the ASF to manage this. We may or may not have the resources
to do so - we don't know what this involves in terms of space or
bandwidth - and we would almost certainly expect the project to manage
the application.

Are you currently signing your binaries?

What happens in 7 months to all of the old releases? Is your community
the type that typically makes heavy use of old releases or are they
constantly upgrading? or?

What kind of release notification infrastructure do you have in place.
I know there's been a 'help bubble' in place that tells folks of new
versions in the past. Does that still exist. How is that notification
authenticated? Are you planning on transferring all of that? If not,
what happens to all of the old versions that no longer get alerts?

Daniel: Since you volunteered for this, do you mind doing some
one-on-one discovery with some of the project folks about their
infrastructure, whats going to move, what isn't? What parts are
crucial to the entire platform working, etc.? Then bring your findings
back to the list?

--David

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