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From Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Fri, 16 Sep 2016 03:33:50 GMT
Thanks. Contacting him.

More info, this time statistics:

Total Physical Source Lines of Code = 8,281,256
Total Number of Files = 64927

Thanks,

Geertjan:



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:22 AM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Notes on the NetBeans infrastructure from the NetBeans build engineer.
> Who
> > from Apache infra is going to do 1:1 discovery?
>
> Daniel Gruno will - feel free to reach out directly to him at
> humbedooh@apache.org
>
> In the meantime, this is a good but of information, Thanks!
>
> --David
> >
> > Public servers:
> > - www.netbeans.org: The core of the netbeans.org project, as well as
> user
> > management, bugzilla, and mailing lists.
> > - hg.netbeans.org: 1 VM with 32 Mercurial repositories. The main
> > repositories are main-golden, main-silver, releases, and all team
> > repositories (core-main, cnd-main, jet-main, profiler-main, ergonomics),
> > localization repository (releases/l10n). Several of the repos are
> inactive
> > and don't need to be migrated. Repos are available via http/https. The
> > server doesn’t have its own authentication mechanism. Authentication for
> > pushes is realized via JSON request from www.netbeans.org. The special
> > directory http://hg.netbeans.org/binaries/ on the server contains and
> > provides 3rd party libraries.
> > - deadlock.netbeans.org: 6 VMs, used mainly for propagation of changes
> > between team repositories and to the releases repository, including jobs
> > for building community plugins (releases*-au) and jobs for prototype
> > projects.
> > - bits.netbeans.org: 1 VM, which is the backup download server and is
> the
> > server for Javahelp and JNLP. The Nexus server runs there and it provides
> > NetBeans Maven artifacts.
> > - downloads.oracle.com and updates.netbeans.org: The main download
> server
> > for installers and update centers. Bits are in fact published on Akami
> > servers all over the world. The server is not under NetBeans team
> control.
> > We only upload data to a specific place and they are processed somehow by
> > Akami.
> > - statistics.netbeans.org: A machine providing statistics on NetBeans
> usage.
> > - plugins.netbeans.org: The server for community plugins.
> > - forums.netbenas.org: NetBeans forums.
> > - services.netbeans.org: Services such as anti spam filters for bugzilla
> > are here, as well as weekly NetBeans newsletter maintenance.
> >
> > Internal servers:
> > - nbbuilder: 5 VMs. The Hudson server with its slaves, where nightly
> builds
> > and release builds are run.
> > - nbbuilder2: 5 VMs. The Hudson server with its slaves, where Maven
> > repositories are generated.
> > - big-mac: Physical machine used for Mac OS X installers.
> > - nbstrorage: Internal storage for all NetBeans bits, access is allowed
> for
> > internal users only via HTTP.
> > - Oracle signing server: NetBeans build jobs using Oracle signing
> > infrastructure for signing installers and NBMs.
> >
> > Comments or follow up to the above?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Shane Curcuru <asfl@shanecurcuru.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Mitch Claborn wrote on 9/15/16 11:07 AM:
> >> > I'm very new in this type of thing. I have zero experience with ASF,
> >> > etc, so if this is out of line, please forgive and I'll keep silent.
> >> >
> >> > I've seen a lot of discussion about the HOW in terms of moving
> NetBeans
> >> > to the Apache project, but not much/any discussion about WHY. I'm not
> a
> >> > NetBeans coder/contributor, but simply someone who uses it 8+ hours
> per
> >> > day in my normal job.
> >> >
> >> > My main question is: will moving NetBeans to Apache result in a better
> >> > product for people like me? If so, what particular aspects of moving
> >> > will make that happen? Are there other projects that have made a
> similar
> >> > move and experienced higher quality as a result?
> >>
> >> As Bertrand noted else-thread: the move is because the actual people
> >> planning to *work on the code* want to make the move (and obviously
> >> Oracle is happy to help with the IP donations).
> >>
> >> Apache is here to help communities of individual contributors build
> >> software products for the public good.  We welcome any community that
> >> wants to use the Apache Way of open, collaborative decision making, and
> >> that will use our license and other structures.  The existing people
> >> actually coding NetBeans are making the proposal, and the Apache
> >> Incubator is happy to review it to see if it will fit here (seems like
> >> it will, albeit with plenty of licensing and infrastructure changes).
> >>
> >> Many people believe that in the long run it *will* make for a better
> >> product for users, because becoming an independently governed project at
> >> the ASF will draw in more code (and test, doc, plugin, etc.)
> >> contributors from new places to help improve the product.
> >>
> >> Does that make sense?
> >>
> >> - Shane
> >>
> >>
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