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From Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Mon, 26 Sep 2016 05:32:21 GMT
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Alex Harui wrote:


> But if you are thinking 100 people, I'd try to get it down to 40-ish.


Seems like a very random number. In the case of NetBeans, that would mean
we'd have few others on the list than those from Oracle, which is not what
we want -- instead, we want to reflect the various communities (Oracle,
NetBeans Platform companies, NetBeans plugin developers, NetBeans Dream
Team members, etc) in our list and yes that's going to result in a number
larger than 40.

Gj


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

> IMO, the only things to consider for the initial committers list are:
>
> If you leave someone off the list:
> - it takes bit longer to get their next commit into the repo.
> - that person may be have hurt feelings as to why some other person is on
> the list.
> (so don't leave off the person who can quickly fix important security bugs)
>
> If you put someone on the list:
> - They may never contribute what they said they might contribute
> - More administrative work for the ASF secretary.
> - You clean up the deadwood at graduation.
>
> As Apache Flex entered the incubator, we had a 40 person initial committer
> list which was considered quite large at the time.  Only one person
> besides me is still active almost five years later.  About 12 never showed
> up because with the move to Apache their paid job role changed and they
> ran out of time to commit anything.  If I had to do it again, I would
> probably still have the same 40 people.  So what if there was deadwood.
> We cleaned some up at graduation, and then over 4 years after graduation,
> folks faded away and new folks came in.
>
> But if you are thinking 100 people, I'd try to get it down to 40-ish.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
>
> On 9/24/16, 11:59 PM, "John McDonnell" <mcdonnell.john@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >
> >I am a netbeans user that has been following this thread since the
> >proposal was announced and I am a little fascinated with this whole
> >process, it seems rather interesting...
> >
> >Although this initial committer list seems to be a sticking point, but
> >from reading this page:
> >https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#committers I'm not
> >sure why it is...
> >
> >I have contributed defect fixes for JClouds in the past, and from what
> >I see on this project is that there's an GitHub repo that allows
> >people to contribute PR's, but theres also a ASF repo, which the
> >contributors actually merge in the PRs from GitHub into the "hidden"
> >ASF repo...   Is this how every ASF project runs? and is this how
> >Apache Netbeans would run?  Because if so, do you want to give a wide
> >list of committers initially?
> >
> >I would have thought it would make sense to keep the number to a group
> >of trusted people that Netbeans/GJ trust up front to commit PRs into
> >the main repo, and to make short term decisions.  Then if a
> >developer/contributor shows themselves to be a useful part of the
> >community then you can quickly vote to change their status...
> >
> >Anyways I'm going to go back to lurking in the background...
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >John
> >
> >
> >On 25 September 2016 at 07:40, Jochen Theodorou <blackdrag@gmx.org>
> wrote:
> >> On 24.09.2016 15:10, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Jochen Theodorou
> >>>
> >>> For me the problem is that without plugins you have only the bare
> >>> plattform
> >>>>
> >>>> and no IDE.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No, that's not true at all. The NetBeans plugins are of various kinds.
> >>> There are plugins that are listed in the Plugin Manager by default,
> >>>these
> >>> are the standard functionalities of NetBeans IDE, i.e., these are all
> >>>from
> >>> the NetBeans source code and will be part of the Apache donation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ok, wrong knowledge on my side. From hat I have seen in the repository
> >>it
> >> should be fine then. I have also seen some possibly license critical
> >>stuff
> >> there, but that is for during incubation to sort out
> >>
> >>
> >> bye Jochen
> >>
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> >
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