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From Ross Gardler <Ross.Gard...@microsoft.com>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] Olympian Incubation Proposal
Date Thu, 29 Sep 2016 21:46:43 GMT
I think the simplest definition of a "hostile fork" is this:

Does the copyright owner object to the fork?
Yes - it's hostile
No - it’s not hostile

Ross

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Hyde [mailto:jhyde@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:11 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Olympian Incubation Proposal
> 
> Some clarification of what constitutes a “hostile fork” would indeed be useful.
> On a few occasions I have had discussions with communities on joining Apache,
> and this often comes up. We have relied on precedent — and in particular, on-
> the-record comments by board members on this list — and it has been
> working OK.
> 
> Bertrand, can you clarify what you mean by “author”. Do you mean copyright
> holder or you mean the individuals? (In this case it is moot, as DataStax is the
> copyright holder and the individuals are now mostly DataStax employees, but
> in other cases it is a material distinction.)
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> > On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> ...I have a bit of a different understanding. We only accept code
> >> contributions that want to be here....
> >
> > This sounds similar to the discussions we had about Bloodhound back in
> > early 2012 - Roy had some good comments about what we should or should
> > not accept, at
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.apa
> >
> che.org%2Froy_forks_2012&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com
> %7
> >
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> 47%7
> >
> C1&sdata=Joz8YRomzG7DfCj9f%2FQ4ju0JqvgArpwM%2BS0hrTnsBdE%3D&rese
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> >
> > It's not all black and white, but IMO we do need some form of
> > agreement from the original authors about the ASF taking control of
> > their code. Or maybe a demonstration that they really don't care about
> > it anymore, which some of the info in this thread hints to.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
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