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From Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.INVALID>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:51:12 GMT
I tend to agree with Alex' interpretation.

But we don't yet know what is part of the hg repo and what is part of the Oracle contribution.

What would happen if someone e.g. did commit some GPL licensed jar to the repo a few years
ago?
It's easy to catch such things if they are still in the latest version.
But what if they got added and later removed? Do we need to filter them out?

The other reason I would love to keep the history is for research reasons.
Being able to git-blame a file and see the commit comments for a specific line often really
helps to understand the code. Not always, but often it does.




LieGrue,
strub


PS: I'm in favour of filtering out ANY binaries from source repos. Just blows up the disk
and download space. But that will be a community discussion within the newly formed ASF NetBeans
project. Just trying to get an overview.

Will give feedback once I'm back at home and the repo is finished with importing.



> On Monday, 19 September 2016, 17:31, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
> > 
> 
> On 9/19/16, 8:13 AM, "Wade Chandler" <me@wadechandler.com on behalf 
> of
> consult@wadechandler.com> wrote:
> 
>>>  On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:04, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com
>>> <mailto:aharui@adobe.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On 9/19/16, 6:16 AM, "Mark Struberg" 
> <struberg@yahoo.de.INVALID
>>> <mailto:struberg@yahoo.de.invalid>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  We also need to check whether the author and contributor flags are
>>>>  properly moved over by the import. We don't like to loose any 
> IP
>>>>  provenance... Etc, etc.
>>> 
>>>  Isn't IP provenance reset by the SGA?  It was for Adobe Flex.  Only 
> a
>>>  couple of committers came in with the 10 year old code base.  Everyone
>>>  else had moved on, but because all were employees of Adobe, it 
> didn't
>>>  matter.  The log just says that someone from Adobe made a commit, not
>>> who.
>>> 
>> 
>> Sorry…sent first from wrong email alias...
>> 
>> NB has a contributor agreement too, and so to contribute we all had to
>> sign one assigning IP to Oracle (same for Sun when they were around).
> 
> I assume Oracle legal has confirmed that the CA allows for donation
> without signature?  That was the case for Adobe's CA, but wasn't the 
> case
> for some code Adobe picked up via an acquisition and we had to execute
> more paperwork.  Assuming the CA allows donation, I would think the
> signing of the SGA resets provenance.  Oracle is saying they own every
> line and authorize its donation.  At that point, exactly which human
> actually wrote the code becomes moot from a provenance standpoint, AIUI.
> "Mr. Oracle" contributed every line.
> 
> Of course, I could be wrong...
> 
> -Alex
> 
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