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From Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: Dual-licensed logo PNG (CC-BY 3.0, LGPL 3.0)? [TAVERNA]
Date Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:08:51 GMT
Since Common Workflow code appears to be under ALv2, it might be worth
contacting that community and asking them to re-license the logo under
ALv2 as well and explain how the current logo licensing makes ALv2
consumption more difficult if they want their logo included in downstream
releases.

My 2 cents,
-Alex

On 8/27/16, 4:23 AM, "Shane Curcuru" <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:

>Indeed, I find it wholly unthinkable that we'd include any LGPL bits in
>an Apache product release, even if it's an ambiguous choice of licenses.
> There is no ambiguity in what types of licenses are allowed in Apache
>releases.
>
>The only way to do this (IMO, I'm not VP, Legal) is to make clear that
>we are licensing the unmodified graphic as CC-SA in our release.  If
>someone wants to include a note elsewhere in the release pointing to the
>original source of the PNG, that's fine.
>
>Please be sure this is noted on your project lists so your mentors can
>track it as well.
>
>- Shane
>
>Niclas Hedhman wrote on 8/26/16 10:25 PM:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I would recommend that we only license that under CC-SA, but you might
>>want
>> to point out that the media files are also available under LGPL3. The
>> downstream user can re-apply (or swap with) the LGPL3 if they want to,
>>as
>> those media files are unmodified and we lay no additional claims.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Niclas
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <stain@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Our GSOC student wants to include a PNG for a CWL logo (for
>>> representing CWL services within Apache Taverna), but the original
>>> logo is dual-licensed:
>>>
>>> From https://github.com/common-workflow-language/logo/blob/
>>> master/LICENSE.md
>>>
>>>> The Common Workflow Language Logos are (C) Copyright 2016 the Common
>>> Workflow Language Project and are released under the terms of the GNU
>>> Lesser General Public License, version 3 or any later version, or, at
>>>your
>>> option, of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported
>>>License.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#cc-sa says:
>>>
>>>> Unmodified media under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike
>>>>2.5
>>> and Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 licenses may be
>>>included
>>> in Apache products, subject to the licenses attribution clauses which
>>>may
>>> require LICENSE/NOTICE/README changes. For any other type of CC-SA
>>>licensed
>>> work, please contact the Legal PMC.
>>>
>>>
>>> So I guess our best option is to use it under CC-SA 3.0 - but as LGPL
>>> 3.0 in this case is not effectively incompatible with ASF license
>>> either direction (it's easy to replace a PNG file in a JAR) - I don't
>>> see a reason why we have to remove that dual-license choice for
>>> downstream users?
>>>
>>> That is - my question is - are we fine in NOT specifying which of the
>>> two licenses we choose to distribute the PNG under?
>>>
>>> (This would allow for instance a GPL 3.0 downstream project to embed
>>> our code AND the logo without re-sourcing it from upstream)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's our student's proposed modifications to append to our project's
>>> LICENSE:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-common-
>>> activities/pull/21/files
>>>
>>>
>>> I assume we don't need to also modify our NOTICE file?  Am I correct
>>> in this understanding? Or should we do something more, e.g.
>>> cwl-logo-header.txt file next to the PNG or adding to the README?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW - I have raised an issue upstream about the attribution as "Common
>>> Workflow Language Project" does not seem to be a legal copyright
>>> holder:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/common-workflow-language/logo/issues/2
>>>
>>> ..I guess for now we should respect their current (C) statement.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any feedback?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>> Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons
>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>
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