Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF58200B40 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id EC86F160A61; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 40156160A4D for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 38832 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jul 2016 19:31:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38820 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jul 2016 19:31:40 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 19:31:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 160BD186D11 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:31:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.298 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.298 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=guac-dev-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx2-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iNzF_T-TZtY0 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-f47.google.com (mail-vk0-f47.google.com [209.85.213.47]) by mx2-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 468425F235 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id u68so123012210vkf.2 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 12:31:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=guac-dev-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MOoRa+t1Fsx13zTzAUjJkwgQ/ZfD+ABsYujNWBNb1jg=; b=xByhJm1byYTC7GLElnIvZ67sC0OrZuESgHKf27Zcq5ajf+wMILZs3QQGeIBc7ySGz2 foElzrlXhjHByQy2w6MlUrQ9oQb0EQMn3OoGxutgPrNGX8N83P/cg8V33BkOaJ3h1kJ2 /5UPNMm+BX9XGxrtrunv8IiPkiu4bDbQFfmhmb1YekxHQbsiOL2l+omJYl4X1Nu5BVAj EsrZNbnBt/pSn3hD45Ud5l/m29gjSkyPW/0pmz54JOOsLZoPABw6xskb/Zqx3WJhCrLn 16Cx5GwTwTEPLKGVFuE96Zu8VaZGTjTdkn4rFPSgZBaIDJkBOBsCSj6KW9Y4j/D5iXvX 1NTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MOoRa+t1Fsx13zTzAUjJkwgQ/ZfD+ABsYujNWBNb1jg=; b=AABBXGxnvsnvJpkPjxh0offS6HsUAFI4yhDw7t8vRc02sXWuJIENI4xDVYeSIBpXGp TyLOVbbkyQdhgaYUq7E15K4j+vJ0nKvdlqSmdH8gTT+Xv+05wAr41xT/Habaqu9dAUnY Zvx6gOTz2sKrWx8s8O6AcYh6Z7OSOnjlkpjv7QjvT0b+J4YMgInQBv84uR3y99O4xrLx O/aCWvtbWmaU0zvZtyGEIVGjRDTrmzdk07PzHUpCSw0abSkssRTebiSVBzYNkbQxcCll TG7gM/+M7rGbq6qAO06KafR5AsdXIvQXXIBcNORsM4ii9+r3SbwFaYuGdRM/BNQcIpJ6 L35g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJX9NDbPQVZuMjoYUfr8BlUL/3S3N5kMIDh+Fk3BYA8mWzUoM7ZNt/NxsyWAXYP5Rcf704l8fVzok2MUg== X-Received: by 10.159.40.164 with SMTP id d33mr10212432uad.109.1467401495025; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 12:31:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.4.38 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 12:31:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [67.164.58.106] In-Reply-To: References: <6464660a-8212-748e-a532-cc53452b76c8@shanecurcuru.org> From: Mike Jumper Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 12:31:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Notes on branding To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c124088dab6410536980863 archived-at: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 19:31:43 -0000 --94eb2c124088dab6410536980863 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Greg Chase wrote: > > > The branding guidelines do not address feedback such as "logo in footer" > or > > "disclaimer is buried deep or below the fold". > > Incubation disclaimers are intended to be substantive. They are not CYA > legal > boilerplate that can be are buried in fine print. The intent is to > communicate > (effectively!) to consumers that a project is incubating. That way, people > will know that certain caveats apply: > > Apache Foo is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software > Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is > required of all newly accepted projects until a further review > indicates > that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process > have > stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. > While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the > completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the > project > has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF. > > What would be best is if podlings just understood that intent, and as and > took > it upon themselves to ensure that their incubating status was communicated > effectively -- in websites, in release announcements, etc. > > Can you cite, as an example, an incubating project's website where you would consider the incubating status effectively communicated, and the disclaimer not buried? --94eb2c124088dab6410536980863--