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From: Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:19:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.1-RC3
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Cc: "John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org>, Kam Kasravi <kamkasravi@yahoo.com>
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A RESULT can still be given when the vote is cancelled. To my mind, the
major purpose of the CANCEL is to shorten the vote period so that the next
vote on the next iteration of the release candidate can start immediately
without confusion.


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Craig Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com>
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Given the state of Apache documented processes, I think it was perfectly
> fine to close this vote with a RESULT. I was not confused after reading
>
> >>> We will correct the noted problems and submit a 0.8.1-RC4.
>
> Recognizing that this document is (still!) in draft status
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#note-votes
>
> "It is conventional to end a VOTE thread with a RESULT post tallying the
> votes cast. To preserve the thread, this should be done by replying to th=
e
> original VOTE post and adding a [RESULT] prefix. The subject may be
> retained as is or edited to indicate the result."
>
> I have seen both positive and negative vote results announced as results.
>
> If we expect folks to follow the proposed rule =E2=80=9CUsually when a vo=
te does
> not pass, the person initiating the vote sends out a [CANCEL] rather than=
 a
> [RESULT] (result inherently is treated as a "it passed" email).=E2=80=9D =
we should
> publish this rule somewhere.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
>
> > On Jul 18, 2016, at 4:38 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > ASF votes don't complete in 72 hours unless the required binding votes
> are
> > placed.  In this case you did not get +3 binding votes (you got +2 and
> -2,
> > which yields 0).  Its not clear from this email whether you're saying t=
he
> > vote has passed or not.  Usually when a vote does not pass, the person
> > initiating the vote sends out a [CANCEL] rather than a [RESULT] (result
> > inherently is treated as a "it passed" email).  Cancel makes it clearer
> > that you're withdrawing the vote due to the issues raised.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:00 AM Kam Kasravi
> <kamkasravi@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi John
> >> The vote period has ended and I'm indicating that we will reissue a ne=
w
> >> candidate release package in lieu of the down votes.Do I need to
> explicitly
> >> say 'cancel' the vote?
> >> ThanksKam
> >>
> >>    On Sunday, July 17, 2016 7:36 PM, John D. Ament <
> johndament@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Did you mean to cancel this vote?
> >> On Jul 17, 2016 22:29, "Kam Kasravi" <kamkasravi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The results are in and voting is now closed.
> >>>
> >>> [2] +1 Release this package as gearpump-0.8.1
> >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9 (binding)
> >>> Andrew Purtell (binding)
> >>>
> >>> [2] -1 Do not release this package
> >>> Justin Mclean (binding) missing DISCLAIMER and LICENSE problems
> >>> John D. Ament (binding) missing DISCLAIMER
> >>>
> >>> We will correct the noted problems and submit a 0.8.1-RC4.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Kam
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect
> craig.russell@oracle.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
>
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