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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.1-RC3
Date Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:43:27 GMT
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:20 AM Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:

> A RESULT can still be given when the vote is cancelled. To my mind, the
> major purpose of the CANCEL is to shorten the vote period so that the next
> vote on the next iteration of the release candidate can start immediately
> without confusion.
>
>
Fair enough.  When reading it, my first inclination was that it looked like
it passed.  I still think it would be better if we made there was something
saying the vote did not pass.

John


>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Craig Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Given the state of Apache documented processes, I think it was perfectly
> > fine to close this vote with a RESULT. I was not confused after reading
> >
> > >>> We will correct the noted problems and submit a 0.8.1-RC4.
> >
> > Recognizing that this document is (still!) in draft status
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#note-votes
> >
> > "It is conventional to end a VOTE thread with a RESULT post tallying the
> > votes cast. To preserve the thread, this should be done by replying to
> the
> > original VOTE post and adding a [RESULT] prefix. The subject may be
> > retained as is or edited to indicate the result."
> >
> > I have seen both positive and negative vote results announced as results.
> >
> > If we expect folks to follow the proposed rule “Usually when a vote does
> > not pass, the person initiating the vote sends out a [CANCEL] rather
> than a
> > [RESULT] (result inherently is treated as a "it passed" email).” we
> should
> > publish this rule somewhere.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 18, 2016, at 4:38 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ASF votes don't complete in 72 hours unless the required binding votes
> > are
> > > placed.  In this case you did not get +3 binding votes (you got +2 and
> > -2,
> > > which yields 0).  Its not clear from this email whether you're saying
> the
> > > vote has passed or not.  Usually when a vote does not pass, the person
> > > initiating the vote sends out a [CANCEL] rather than a [RESULT] (result
> > > inherently is treated as a "it passed" email).  Cancel makes it clearer
> > > that you're withdrawing the vote due to the issues raised.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:00 AM Kam Kasravi
> > <kamkasravi@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi John
> > >> The vote period has ended and I'm indicating that we will reissue a
> new
> > >> candidate release package in lieu of the down votes.Do I need to
> > explicitly
> > >> say 'cancel' the vote?
> > >> ThanksKam
> > >>
> > >>    On Sunday, July 17, 2016 7:36 PM, John D. Ament <
> > johndament@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Did you mean to cancel this vote?
> > >> On Jul 17, 2016 22:29, "Kam Kasravi" <kamkasravi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> The results are in and voting is now closed.
> > >>>
> > >>> [2] +1 Release this package as gearpump-0.8.1
> > >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré (binding)
> > >>> Andrew Purtell (binding)
> > >>>
> > >>> [2] -1 Do not release this package
> > >>> Justin Mclean (binding) missing DISCLAIMER and LICENSE problems
> > >>> John D. Ament (binding) missing DISCLAIMER
> > >>>
> > >>> We will correct the noted problems and submit a 0.8.1-RC4.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Kam
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > Architect
> > craig.russell@oracle.com
> > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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