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From James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
Subject Re: [ALL] Volunteers for a Math IPMC?
Date Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:55:47 GMT
What do we consider "empty"? Is there some observed "critical mass"? Right
now I believe we are 4 (to contribute), but they have had users for a long
time.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 5:29 PM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:

> Generally speaking, incubation is to nurture a community to adopting the
> Apache Way.  This includes self governance, community growth and licensing
> policies.
>
> We generally expect some kind of backing community to bring this to.  We
> have seen pretty consistently that starting from an empty community doesn't
> work.  It doesn't mean that it's impossible, but very hard to do.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:07 PM Jochen Wiedmann <jochen.wiedmann@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Looking back through the discussion, it is a bit of a problem that one
> of
> > > the major reasons given for the fork is that the team thought that they
> > > didn't have a large enough PMC and that incubation wouldn't get them
> > enough
> > > additional contributors. That made it seem like the project should go
> > > forward without meeting Apache requirements (i.e. outside).
> > >
> > > Is the situation really that different now that a vastly diminished
> team
> > is
> > > likely to benefit from incubation enough to form a viable TLP?
> > >
> > > (I hate that this sounds negative ... it is a real question)
> >
> > We can't tell you. It is just, that some of us (including me) have the
> > feeling/opinion, that going through the Incubator is the path, where
> > the chances are best to attract new committers.
> >
> > Jochen
> >
> >
> > --
> > The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.keystonedevelopment.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/evolution-of-the-wheel-300x85.jpg
> >
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