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From Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Pirk Incubation Proposal
Date Tue, 07 Jun 2016 16:45:24 GMT
HI Joe,

Thanks for your reply.

Technically, that is what ALL mentors suppose to do. Wear different hats
when representing as Apache member.

But we all know that is not how it happens in reality. Most people nowadays
get paid to do open source by day employer so like it or not some influence
of the employer will take effect.

I would encourage do bit more homework in terms finding mentors. Others new
podlings such as Eagle, CarbonData, and Kudu had done extra effort to find
mentors from different orgs.

Hope this helps.

- Henry

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Joe Witt <joe.witt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Henry
>
> I totally understand the spirit of your statement but I want to be
> clear in speaking for my own involvement here.  I am participating in
> this proposal and proposed podling as an apache member.  That I happen
> to work for hortonworks has absolutely nothing to do with it and
> frankly I wish it was not called out in this document.  The template
> even calls this out as a controversial item.
>
> I believe I am the only one on the initial committers list that is
> affiliated with hortonworks for what it is worth.
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > One immediate concern is all mentors coming from Hortonworks.
> >
> > I would strongly suggest to find more balance mentors.
> >
> > I know we had this discussion about "fake" diversity stuff, but I
> strongly
> > advise to do more effort to get mentors from different background than
> one
> > company.
> >
> >
> > - Henry
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016, Ellison Anne Williams <
> eawilliamspirk@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >>
> >> We would like to discuss the proposal of a new project to the incubator
> -
> >> Pirk.
> >>
> >>
> >> Pirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval (PIR).
> >>
> >>
> >> The proposal is contained below and can also be found on the wiki at
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PirkProposal
> >>
> >>
> >> Looking forward to the discussion -
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> Ellison Anne
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________
> >>
> >>
> >> = Pirk Proposal =
> >>
> >> == Abstract ==
> >> Pirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval (PIR).
> >>
> >> == Proposal ==
> >>
> >> Pirk is a software framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval
> and
> >> is meant to provide a landing place for robust, scalable, and practical
> >> implementations of PIR algorithms. The initial scalable PIR algorithms
> of
> >> Pirk were developed at the National Security Agency.
> >>
> >> == Background ==
> >>
> >> Private Information Retrieval (PIR) is an area of computer science and
> >> mathematics that enables a user/entity to privately and securely obtain
> >> information from a dataset, to which they have been granted access,
> without
> >> revealing, to the dataset owner or to an observer, any information
> >> regarding the questions asked or the results obtained. Employing
> >> homomorphic encryption techniques, PIR enables datasets to remain
> resident
> >> in their native locations while giving the ability to query the datasets
> >> with sensitive terms.
> >>
> >> == Rationale ==
> >>
> >> Although PIR has been in existence for over twenty years, it has largely
> >> remained an academic discipline with very little robust or scalable
> >> implementation. Pirk not only provides implementations of novel scalable
> >> PIR algorithms, but it provides a framework into which robust, scalable,
> >> and practical PIR may be developed.
> >>
> >> Pirk fits well within the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) family as it
> >> depends on numerous ASF projects and integrates with several others
> such as
> >> Hadoop and Spark. We also anticipate developing extensions/adaptors for
> >> several other ASF projects such as Kafka, Storm, HBase, and Accumulo in
> the
> >> near future.
> >>
> >> == Initial Goals ==
> >>
> >>  * Ensure all dependencies are compliant with Apache License version 2.0
> >> and that all code and documentation artifacts have the correct Apache
> >> licensing markings and notice.
> >>
> >>  * Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing for
> dependable
> >> release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache development
> process.
> >>
> >>  * Establish a process which allows different release cycles for the
> core
> >> framework, extensions/adaptors, and additional algorithms.
> >>
> >>  * Grow the community to establish diversity of background and
> expertise.
> >>
> >> == Current Status ==
> >>
> >> === Meritocracy ===
> >>
> >> We will actively seek help and encourage promotion of influence in the
> >> project through meritocracy. We will discuss the requirements in an open
> >> forum. We will encourage and monitor community participation so that
> >> privileges can be extended to those that contribute.
> >>
> >> === Community ===
> >>
> >> Pirk currently has a community of developers within the U.S.
> government. In
> >> open sourcing Pirk we plan to grow the community to a broader base of
> >> industries and will work to align the interaction of our existing
> >> community.
> >>
> >> === Core Developers ===
> >>
> >> The initial core developers are employed by the US Government. We will
> work
> >> to grow the community among a more diverse set of developers and
> >> industries.
> >>
> >> === Alignment ===
> >>
> >> Pirk was developed with an open source philosophy in mind and the Apache
> >> way is consistent with the approach we have taken to date. Further, Pirk
> >> depends on numerous ASF libraries and projects including Hadoop, Spark,
> >> Commons, and Maven. We also anticipate extensions and dependencies with
> >> several more ASF projects, including Accumulo, Avro, HBase, Storm,
> Kafka,
> >> and others. This existing alignment with Apache and the desired
> community
> >> makes the Apache Incubator a good fit for Pirk.
> >>
> >>
> >> == Known Risks ==
> >>
> >> === Orphaned Products ===
> >>
> >> Risk of orphaning is limited though it is important to grow the
> community.
> >> The project user and developer base is growing and there is already
> >> operational use of Pirk.
> >>
> >> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
> >>
> >> The initial committers to Pirk have limited experience with true open
> >> source software development. However, despite the project origins being
> >> from closed source development we have modeled our behavior and
> community
> >> development on The Apache Way to the greatest extent possible. We are
> >> committed to the ideals of open source software and will eagerly seek
> out
> >> mentors and sponsors who can help us quickly come up to speed.
> >>
> >> === Homogenous Developers ===
> >>
> >> The initial committers of Pirk come from a limited set of entities
> though
> >> we are committed to recruiting and developing additional committers
> from a
> >> broad spectrum of industries and backgrounds.
> >>
> >> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
> >>
> >> We expect Pirk development to continue on salaried time and through
> >> volunteer time. The majority of initial committers are paid by their
> >> employers to contribute to this project. We are committed to developing
> and
> >> recruiting participation from developers both salaried and non-salaried.
> >>
> >> === Relationship with other Apache Projects ===
> >>
> >> As described in the alignment section, Pirk is already heavily
> dependent on
> >> other ASF projects and we anticipate further dependence and integration
> >> with new and emerging projects in the Apache family.
> >>
> >> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
> >>
> >> We respect the Apache brand and desire to adopt its community building
> >> principles. Our desire is to build and foster an open source community
> >> around scalable, robust PIR  which aligns with the Apache tenets.
> Further,
> >> Apache is a natural home for Pirk given our existing dependencies and
> >> alignment with ASF projects.
> >>
> >> === Documentation ===
> >>
> >> At this time there is no Pirk documentation on the web. However, we have
> >> documentation included within the application that details usage. Using
> >> incubator infrastructure we will be rapidly expanding the available
> >> documentation to cover things like installation, developer guide,
> >> frequently asked questions, best practices, and more.
> >>
> >> == Initial Source ==
> >>
> >> The core codebase is written in Java and includes detailed Javadocs and
> >> feature documentation.
> >>
> >> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission ==
> >>
> >> The Pirk code and documentation materials will be submitted by the
> National
> >> Security Agency. Pirk has been developed by government employees.
> Material
> >> developed by the government employees is in the public domain and no
> U.S.
> >> copyright exists in works of the federal government. NSA has submitted
> >> Corporate Contributor License Agreement to the Apache Software
> Foundation;
> >> the Software Grant Agreement is forth coming.
> >>
> >> == External Dependencies ==
> >>
> >> We believe all current dependencies are compatible with the ASF
> guidelines.
> >> Our dependency licenses come from the Apache v 2.0 and Eclipse Public
> v1.
> >>
> >> == Cryptography ==
> >>
> >> Consistent with http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ we believe
> Pirk is
> >> classified as ECCN 5D002. In the event that it becomes necessary we will
> >> engage with appropriate Apache members to ensure we file any necessary
> >> paperwork or clarified any cryptographic export license concerns.
> >>
> >> == Required Resources ==
> >>
> >> === Mailing Lists ===
> >>
> >>  * dev@pirk.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> >>  * private@pirk.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> >>  * commits@pirk.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> >>
> >> === Source Control ===
> >>
> >> Pirk requests use of Git for source control (git://
> git.apache.org/pirk.git
> >> ).
> >> We request a writeable Git repo for Pirk with mirroring to be setup to
> >> Github through INFRA.
> >>
> >> === Issue Tracking ===
> >>
> >> JIRA Pirk (PIRK)
> >>
> >> === Initial Committers ===
> >>
> >>  * Tracy Brown <tbrownpirk at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
> >>  * Christopher Harris <Chris.Harris010 at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
> >>  * Walter Ray-Dulaney <raydulany at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
> >>  * Jacob Wilder <jacobwilder.opensource  at gmail dot com>, CLA
> submitted
> >>  * Ellison Anne Williams  <eawilliamsPirk at gmail dot com>, CLA
> confirmed
> >>  * Joe Witt (Hortonworks) <joewitt at apache dot org>, CLA confirmed
> >>
> >> == Sponsors ==
> >>
> >> === Champion ===
> >>
> >>  * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks) <billie at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
> >>
> >> === Nominated Mentors ===
> >>
> >>  * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks) <billie at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
> >>  * Joe Witt (Hortonworks) <joewitt at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
> >>  * Josh Elser (Hortonworks) <elserj at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
> >>
> >> === Sponsoring Entity ===
> >>
> >> We request the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project.
> >>
>
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