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From Pat Ferrel <...@occamsmachete.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal
Date Sat, 21 May 2016 15:07:09 GMT
Not proposing including code we don’t own, proposing that we include the mechanism for contribution.
The reason I bring this up is that the only documented way to get a template is to download
it from the Gallery.  But I agree it can be worked out during incubation.

Also asking if Salesforce is donating any of their templates, this is separate from the core
PIO repo and also separate from the Gallery. This is the part I didn’t see addressed (I
think meaning they are not donated). Not a problem either way, just asking.


On May 20, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org> wrote:

​​The proposal excludes the Template Gallery from inclusion in the initial
software grant and sets it up as an issue for the podling to tackle during
incubation.

"The PredictionIO community also maintains a​ ​Template Gallery, a place to
publish and download (free or proprietary) engine templates for different
types of machine learning applications, and is a complemental part of the
project. At this point we exclude the Template Gallery from the proposal,
as it has a separate set of contributors and we’re not familiar with an
Apache approved mechanism to maintain such a gallery.​"

I agree with the proposers that tracking down a large set of contributors
to get their ok for a consolidated grant would be onerous.



On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Pat Ferrel <pat@occamsmachete.com> wrote:

> +1 for the current committer list, but please, anyone interested get
> familiar, we will need more help soon!
> 
> Also I’d like to bring up the template gallery again. Plugins may be
> problematic in other projects but pio does nothing of interest *without* a
> template. There are some examples in the core repo but...
> 
> Questions:
> 1) can the gallery be transferred? This is just a listing of templates
> that may be maintained by external people and is the source from which they
> are downloaded by default.
> 2) which templates are proposed for the transfer? Didn’t see that spelled
> out beyond the included examples.
> 
> On May 20, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Suneel Marthi <smarthi@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> The current list is good to go and includes all (both present and former)
> PIO folks.
> I am fine with going for Voting with the present list.
> 
> +1
> 
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> The current list of initial committers was that provided me by the
>> PredictionIO folks so I have every reason to believe they all have a
> stake
>> at entering incubation.
>> 
>> It's totally fine with me if we stick to that list. I am just trying to
>> facilitate the fairest process possible.
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, May 20, 2016, Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Suneel Marthi <smarthi@apache.org
>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>> I definitely have concerns about too many folks becoming initial
>>> committers
>>>> and bringing their own corporate agendas to this project.
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest that first we vote PIO into incubator then bring in those
>> less
>>>> experienced with the project. We have a good start with people who have
>>>> worked on the project from several orgs. Let us get organized first and
>>>> then bring in new people.
>>> 
>>> I think this is a reasonable concern. Andrew, any chance you can look
>> over
>>> the names of initial committers and let us know who has had a stake in
>> the
>>> project before entering the incubation vs. those who are trying to join
>> in
>>> as
>>> part of the ASF Incubation.
>>> 
>>> I'm not saying we need to pass judgement one way or the other yet, but
> it
>>> will be a very useful data point to know before voting.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roman.
>>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> 
>>  - Andy
>> 
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>> 
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Best regards,

  - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)


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