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From Shane Curcuru <>
Subject Re: Policy should be simple (was "Allowed Champions on podlings")
Date Wed, 23 Mar 2016 01:13:01 GMT
Roman Shaposhnik wrote on 3/22/16 4:56 PM:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Julian Hyde <> wrote:
>> If you want to simplify policy, get rid of the champion.
>> Or rather, reduce the champion’s role to nominating a project for incubation.
>> Once the project has entered incubation, the champion’s role ends.
> +1000 to the above. With all of my experience getting projects through the
> incubation I couldn't find a single instance where a Champion role would
> prove to be really valuable ON TOP of active mentor(s).

With the most important point in this entire thread being "active
mentors".  No parenthesis around the (s), I mean multiple mentors who
are truly engaged with the podling, actively assisting, and ensuring
that they review the quarterly podling reports going to the IPMC (and
then to the board).

If having some ASF Member or the like get the title "Champion" is shown
to help ensure we have active mentors, then we need to keep it.  If
that's not true, then I agree: needless complication.

A secondary concern (from reading board reports over the years) is
ensuring that enough mentors on each podling *truly* get the Apache Way,
so that we know a podling going towards graduation really is ready, and
that we have multiple inputs to that evaluation.

Overall, Incubator continues to improve, both with activity and clarity
of process, which is awesome.  8-)

- Shane

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