Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AD061821C for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 80749 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jan 2016 09:03:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 80551 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jan 2016 09:03:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 80540 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jan 2016 09:03:08 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:03:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id A8A6C18058B for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:03:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.457 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.457 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.554, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tarNhyCQ07mh for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.am-soft.de (mail.am-soft.de [83.218.36.120]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id ADE182026F for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Envelope-To: general@incubator.apache.org Envelope-To: log4cxx-dev@logging.apache.org Received: from localhost (dslb-188-102-138-147.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de [188.102.138.147]) by mail.am-soft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073CCEBC82; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 10:01:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 10:01:29 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Thorsten_Sch=C3=B6ning?= Organization: AM-SoFT IT-Systeme X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8110117309.20160107100129@am-soft.de> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" CC: "Log4CXX Dev" Subject: Re: Help for the Log4cxx podling In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guten Tag Marvin Humphrey, am Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2016 um 04:59 schrieben Sie: > The community has one active developer as far as I can tell, and at least= he > is responding to user inquiries when they come in. But one developer doe= s not > make an Apache community. Looking at the SVN history, Curt Arnold seemed to be the only active developer in the project for years. > The project has had a long and successful run, but I think the time has c= ome > for Log4CXX to consider retiring and heading to the Attic. Attic seems to be the "no one cares anymore" place for Apache projects, but that's not the case if log4cxx still receives at least some feedback by users. But of course you are absolutely right about the incubation process: It doesn't look like there's other members still around, one doesn't know if this ever changes again and I do know that officially releasing software just to correspond to some Apache process has a very low priority on my todo list, because of the reasons already mentioned in your former quote. The most important thing for me is that there's someone "out there" providing at least some level of support AND is able to commit, in my opinion folks can handle things like missing releases. If this is not enough for the Apache way and/or incubation process, then feel free to move log4cxx into Attic. But in that case I would like to ask if we can create a GitHub repo for the project so people like me are able to fork it and easier merge patches of other users who may still be around. There's already one, but that lacks the incubating history. We can make clear in the README that it's unsupported and dead and whatever you like, just don't please lock the current(!) history of the project away behind a door. https://github.com/apache/log4cxx Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen, Thorsten Sch=C3=B6ning --=20 Thorsten Sch=C3=B6ning E-Mail: Thorsten.Schoening@AM-SoFT.de AM-SoFT IT-Systeme http://www.AM-SoFT.de/ Telefon...........05151- 9468- 55 Fax...............05151- 9468- 88 Mobil..............0178-8 9468- 04 AM-SoFT GmbH IT-Systeme, Brandenburger Str. 7c, 31789 Hameln AG Hannover HRB 207 694 - Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Andreas Muchow --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org