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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Confusion over NOTICE vs LICENSE files
Date Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:35:10 GMT
There really isn't a difference between things copied without modification
and things copied with modification insofar as copyright is concerned.

Copying without modification into a larger work is just a special case of a
derived work. The change introduced is represented by adding the rest of
the work.



On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Todd Lipcon <todd@cloudera.com> wrote:

> For the sake of all of these discussions, are "bundled dependencies" and
> "work derived from other projects source code" 100% equivalent? In many
> cases we've copied (or ported) small bits of code from other projects and
> believe them to be 'derived work' from a copyright standpoint. My
> assumption is that there's no difference between that and "bundling" in
> which you are typically taking a release artifact as-is from another
> project.
>
> -Todd
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Todd Lipcon <todd@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > > Yea, even after this thread I'm not entirely sure on whether copyright
> > > statements need to be duplicated from original source files into NOTICE
> > or
> > > not.
> >
> > Copyright statements on their own within a source file?  They do not.
> >
> > > For example, Subversion's LICENSE file mentions the 'linenoise' library
> > and
> > > its copyrights, but its NOTICE file doesn't.
> >
> > That is the propagation of the *entire* BSD-2 *license* for linenoise
> from
> > the
> > source file to the LICENSE file. All members of the BSD license family
> are
> > templates which require insertion of a copyright statement.
> >
> >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/trunk/LICENSE?revision=1714640&view=markup#l369
> >
> > Legally, not even the propagation of the BSD-2 license to LICENSE is
> > required.
> > So long as the bundled source files for linenoise retain that license
> > header,
> > the BSD-2 license is satisfied and redistribution is legally permitted.
> >
> > However, it is the policy of the ASF that the top level LICENSE file
> > summarize
> > information about the licensing of bundled dependencies. This provides a
> > service to downstream consumers of ASF products -- they can examine the
> > top-level LICENSE file instead of having to look through every last
> source
> > file.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
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>
>
> --
> Todd Lipcon
> Software Engineer, Cloudera
>

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