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Subject: Re: interested in joining the IPMC
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:42:20 -0800
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We have had several people write in to general@ over the past few months wit=
h this type of request. In at least one case a request triggered a vote on t=
he private list. We should update the incubator site with guidance on what i=
s the best way to approach the IPMC if this isn't ideal.=20


> On Dec 12, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com> wro=
te:
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>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:04 AM, James Taylor <jamestaylor@apache.org> w=
rote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm the PMC Chair for Apache Phoenix and a PMC member of Apache Calcite,
>> both top level project and both of which I went through the incubation
>> process. Recently several projects interested in going through incubation=

>> approached me to be a mentor, hence my interest in joining - so that I ca=
n
>> help guide them through this process. I understand that the process for n=
on
>> ASF members is to initiate a vote on the private list. I'd appreciate it i=
f
>> that could start at your earliest convenience.
>>=20
>> Please let me know if I need to perform any further action before a vote i=
s
>> started.
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> Hi James, thanks for your interest. For what it's worth, there's no
> reason you couldn't help out a podling without being a Mentor.  And
> the process for non-ASF-Members joining the Incubator PMC is actually
> the same as for any other Apache PMC -- someone earns merit and then
> is invited to join.
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> Regardless of what happens in this specific case, if people are going
> to initiate direct requests like this, I wish they would use the
> private list.  Every once in a while somebody who has not earned merit
> makes a request to join a PMC; it is awkward to rebuff such requests
> discreetly when the request is public.  Apache private lists are not
> supposed to be used a lot, but personnel discussions are one of the
> main reasons we have them.
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> Marvin Humphrey
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