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From Tim Barham <Tim.Bar...@microsoft.com>
Subject RE: Ripple to be retired from the incubator?
Date Wed, 02 Dec 2015 23:18:56 GMT
Hey all, I've been OOF for a couple of weeks, so I'm catching up on the threads. I'm just wondering
where we're at now, exactly. Specifically:

1. Do we need an official vote thread on this, or can we consider that done based on existing
discussion? If the former, I'm happy to start it - but based on what I read here [1], it is
perhaps not necessary: "If the PPMC unanimously recommends retirement, it gets retired. No
need for a VOTE, just notify the IPMC, leave for 72 hours minimum and retire it" ... Oh, I
just reread through what Marvin wrote. Based on the bit I quoted, do we even need the IPMC
vote (or perhaps that vote has already occurred - just realized I still haven't subscribed
to that list)?
2. Where are things at with the trademark?

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement

Thanks,

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 11:46 AM
To: dev@ripple.incubator.apache.org; general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Ripple to be retired from the incubator?

Marvin I would love to accept your help in retiring the podling. I'll close out the trademark
issue with the community in parallel.

Thank you
Ross

-----Original Message-----
From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:marvin@rectangular.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:30 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: dev@ripple.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ripple to be retired from the incubator?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Ross Gardler <Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Looks like there is consensus here. I'm not sure of the process as 
> I've never been through it before so copying general@incubator for guidance.
>
> General@ the Ripple Podling has consensus on retiring itself from the 
> Apache Incubator - what needs to be done?

There's a guide:

    https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fincubator.apache.org%2fguides%2fretirement&data=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7ceceac54df6424746927008d2f9eef802%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=Z%2biD5gyv57yHj7B8%2fZHs5oVafFPRiYS%2bPqD1B2BmPok%3d

I've been assisting various podlings with retirement lately (Droids, Kalumet, Corinthia),
and I'd be happy to help with Ripple as well.  (I plan to rework the retirement guide, so
have been gathering experience.)

According to the guide, the next step is that the podling "should" run a VOTE on the dev list.
 Since there has been prominent discussion on Ripple's dev list with the word "retire" in
the subject, though, arguably the entire community has been informed and the podling dev list
VOTE can be skipped[1].

After that, the next steps are to run an IPMC VOTE on general@incubator and then follow the
guide for closing down resources.  I can handle all that if you like -- just let me know.

The one thing that isn't covered in the guide is the trademark issue.  I see you're on top
of that, though.

Marvin Humphrey

[1] The retirement guide drones on endlessly on this topic -- around half
    of it is dedicated to defining the circumstances under which
    the podling dev list VOTE can be skipped.

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