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From Julian Hyde <>
Subject Re: interested in joining the IPMC
Date Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:36:57 GMT
After Marvin's message I was curious enough to look up the policy. It
is documented, and it is indeed as Marvin says:

I would encourage people to post links when responding to policy
questions. It is not necessary, but it helps counter the perception
(whether or not that perception is valid) that policy changes with
every message to this list.


On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Andrew Purtell
<> wrote:
> We have had several people write in to general@ over the past few months with this type
of request. In at least one case a request triggered a vote on the private list. We should
update the incubator site with guidance on what is the best way to approach the IPMC if this
isn't ideal.
>> On Dec 12, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:04 AM, James Taylor <>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm the PMC Chair for Apache Phoenix and a PMC member of Apache Calcite,
>>> both top level project and both of which I went through the incubation
>>> process. Recently several projects interested in going through incubation
>>> approached me to be a mentor, hence my interest in joining - so that I can
>>> help guide them through this process. I understand that the process for non
>>> ASF members is to initiate a vote on the private list. I'd appreciate it if
>>> that could start at your earliest convenience.
>>> Please let me know if I need to perform any further action before a vote is
>>> started.
>> Hi James, thanks for your interest. For what it's worth, there's no
>> reason you couldn't help out a podling without being a Mentor.  And
>> the process for non-ASF-Members joining the Incubator PMC is actually
>> the same as for any other Apache PMC -- someone earns merit and then
>> is invited to join.
>> Regardless of what happens in this specific case, if people are going
>> to initiate direct requests like this, I wish they would use the
>> private list.  Every once in a while somebody who has not earned merit
>> makes a request to join a PMC; it is awkward to rebuff such requests
>> discreetly when the request is public.  Apache private lists are not
>> supposed to be used a lot, but personnel discussions are one of the
>> main reasons we have them.
>> Marvin Humphrey
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