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From Henry Robinson <he...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 01 Dec 2015 23:02:24 GMT
On 1 December 2015 at 14:46, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:

> On 12/01/2015 11:37 PM, Henry Robinson wrote:
> > On 1 December 2015 at 14:32, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Henry Robinson <henry@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> Binding -1s (4):
> >>>     Greg Stein
> >>>     Ralph Goers
> >>>     Roman Shaposhnik
> >>>     Konstantin Boudnik ...
> >>
> >> Please indicate how the issues that are behind these -1s have been
> >> addressed.
> >>
> >> I might have missed something, just had a quick look at the VOTE thread.
> >>
> >
> > Do they have to be addressed for the vote to pass? My understanding was
> > that this vote was by majority, and that -1s did not act as vetos.
> >
>
> Given as we have no actual incubator policy that states whether
> consensus is required or not - or at least none that I could find -  one
> would assume this falls back to the default "3x+1 and more +1s than -1s"
> here, with consensus being something we strive for, but not a mandatory
> outcome.
>
> What Bertrand might be trying to ask here is whether the concerns have
> been addressed in the sense that there have been replies and a
> discussion surrounding these topics.
>
> You don't necessarily need to have everyone agree with you, but you
> should at least have a discussion about your different opinions.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>


Thanks Daniel. Since these concerns weren't raised on Impala's [DISCUSS]
thread, I believe that's why many Impala community members didn't think to
address them beforehand (and my - possibly mistaken - view was that [VOTE]
threads were explicitly not for discussion, that phase having ended, hence
I didn't respond when the -1 votes were cast). That said, my (personal)
position is adequately represented on the lengthy RTC vs CTR thread by
other proponents of RTC. Todd Lipcon is a mentor for the Impala proposal,
and I believe his views broadly represent that of the Impala community as
it currently is composed.

Bertrand, does that discussion satisfy you that the RTC vs CTR question has
been adequately debated? I understand that Greg does not feel his viewpoint
has been carried into the proposal for Impala, but it seems the question is
over whether we've given it sufficient consideration.

Happy to work to resolve this, just want to understand the point(s) under
question.

Best,
Henry


>
> > Best,
> > Henry
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
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