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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Impala commit policy
Date Wed, 02 Dec 2015 22:36:10 GMT
Yeup!

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Henry Robinson <henry@cloudera.com> wrote:

> What might happen, however, is that the discussion is revisited with a
> particular focus on the concerns that you've raised. So although it might
> be unlikely that the community performs a volte-face and elects for CTR, we
> might say "what can we do to limit the risk that RTC inhibits community
> growth, without abandoning RTC completely?". At the very least, the
> community becomes aware of the concerns, and more sensitive to their
> potential impact.
>
>
> On 2 December 2015 at 11:09, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, this is what I meant earlier. Leaving out a commit policy changes
> > nothing. The same people who put together the proposal will be the same
> set
> > as those discussing it as a podling, and they will reach the same
> > conclusion.
> >
> > If the PPMC doubles in size, with fresh faces, then a real discussion can
> > happen. Tho I doubt that will be possible -- I'm unaware of any podling
> > pulling off such growth.
> > On Dec 2, 2015 12:45 PM, "Henry Robinson" <henry@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree that this is something the Impala community will want to
> discuss
> > > fairly early on in incubation - along with a lot of other project
> > > procedural stuff as we adjust or rethink our workflows to be Apache-Way
> > > compatible.
> > >
> > > Until we have that discussion, I'd expect Impala will continue along
> RTC
> > > lines simply because this is what the existing community is used to
> (and
> > I
> > > believe, prefers), and the workflows are well established and work
> > > smoothly.
> > >
> > > That is, I personally am ok with no explicit commit protocol, but in
> > > practice it is likely to appear as if there is no change, until the
> > > community discussion about policies happens during incubation.
> > >
> > > On 2 December 2015 at 10:08, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nice +1 =)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Tom White <tomwhite@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > The vote to accept Impala into the incubator has passed
> > > > > (http://s.apache.org/u6r), however there are still some concerns
> > about
> > > > > CTR/RTC. My main takeaways from the CTR/RTC thread are that it's
> not
> > a
> > > > > binary choice, and that it's entirely reasonable that different
> > > > > communities have different commit policies at the ASF.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think Julian Hyde's suggestion that the Impala podling start with
> > no
> > > > > explicit commit policy is a good one. Incubation should be used as
> a
> > > > > time to work out what works best for a project. The initial Impala
> > > > > community should discuss the commit policy as they go through the
> > > > > process of setting up ASF infra and start growing the podling. In
> > > > > particular this will include how Gerrit can be used as a tool to
> > > > > facilitate reviews, and how that fits with ASF culture, which is
> > > > > something that other projects are looking at too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Henry Robinson
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Cloudera
> > > 415-994-6679
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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> Henry Robinson
> Software Engineer
> Cloudera
> 415-994-6679
>

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