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From Serge Huber <shu...@jahia.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Unomi 1.0.0-incubating
Date Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:58:27 GMT
Hi John,

> Le 29 déc. 2015 à 00:24, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> a écrit :
> 
> Hi Serge,
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM Serge Huber <shuber@jahia.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Niall (and Daniel),
>> 
>> Thanks for spending time on checking this. Wow that email from Roy seemed
>> quite aggressive in tone, but I have heard this before and should have
>> remembered it. I also feel partly responsible for this because I setup the
>> initial build project and didn’t do this initially.
> I'm not sure who Roy is.  Maybe you could share a link to some email?
> Hopefully we're not coming across too tough here :-(

I was talking about this email from Roy Fielding that Niall referenced here: http://s.apache.org/srcrel
but it's not really important.

> 
> 
>> JB has been really working hard on helping this project getting off the
>> ground and it’s a shame this was caught so late (but it’s good that it was
>> caught nonetheless). I’d like to keep him as motivated as possible so I
>> take the opportunity to thank him here for all his hard work.
> 
> JB's a great guy to have on any project.

+1 :)

> 
> 
>> 
>> What is the best next step now ? Retract the release and build a source
>> package and resubmit that for approval ? Wait for the vote to complete and
>> get rejected, build a source package and re-open a vote for approval ?
> 
> You kind of have to in this case.  You don't have a valid release.  We vote
> on the source release, the binary release is a convenience for end users so
> they don't need to compile the sources.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  Serge…
>> 
>>>> On 28 déc. 2015, at 21:28, Niall Pemberton <niall.pemberton@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My bad, I forgot to include unomi-xxxx-src.[tar.gz|zip] artifact as I do
>>>> for other project.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, the source are on git based on the tag:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-unomi/tree/unomi-root-1.0.0-incubating
>>>> 
>>>> (I paste github mirror there as it's easier to read).
>>>> 
>>>> Let see what the others think about that. If we consider as blocker, I
>>>> will include a source artifacts.
>>> 
>>> "The Apache Software Foundation exists to create open source software.
>>> Thus, the fundamental requirement for a release is that it consist of the
>>> necessary source code to build the project."
>>> 
>>> See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html#valid
>>> 
>>> So, yes its a complete blocker.
>>> 
>>> Also worth reading: http://s.apache.org/srcrel
>>> 
>>> Niall
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I will add the source artifacts for 1.0.1-incubating release.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/28/2015 09:05 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/28/2015 08:56 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The unomi-1.0.0-incubating.tar.gz (or zip) is the unomi distribution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It assembles all "binaries" and provide ready to run runtime.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you want a description of each artifact ? I can prepare that if
it
>>>>>> helps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd prefer what other projects produce - a source release that contains
>>>>> source only, no binary applications. I cannot vote on a binary release.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll refer to the Incubator release draft[1] which reasons:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Each Apache release must contain a source package. This package may
>> not
>>>>> contain compiled components (such as "jar" files) because compiled
>>>>> components are not open source, even if they were built from open
>> source."
>>>>> 
>>>>> This also begs the question of how you managed to get approval in the
>>>>> podling to do this release if you have not voted on a source package.
>>>>> One would think this is a do-over with a source package to be voted on
>>>>> in the podling and then passed to the IPMC for approval.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#check-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12/28/2015 07:48 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>> however....there are no less than 215 java binaries in that RC
- I
>>>>>>> couldn't possibly vote +1 on something I don't know what is,
and I'm
>> not
>>>>>>> about to go reverse engineer it to find out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Other than that it seems okay, but consider this a tentative
-1.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 12/28/2015 07:40 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sorry, it's on the staging repo:
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheunomi-1002/org/apache/unomi/unomi/1.0.0-incubating/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I will upload to dist.apache.org when the release vote will
pass.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/2015 07:31 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/2015 07:26 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I submit Apache Unomi 1.0.0-incubating release to
your vote.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> A vote was held on developer mailing list and it
passed with 7
>> +1s.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Vote thread:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-unomi-dev/201512.mbox/%3C5679AACE.1080902@nanthrax.net%3E
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Result thread:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-unomi-dev/201512.mbox/%3C5680CAAF.7080304%40nanthrax.net%3E
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The vote is open for 72 hours:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 approve
>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Where are the release artifacts located? I'd like to
do my usual
>>>>>>>>> tests,
>>>>>>>>> but I can't seem to find any tarballs or the likes in
the emails
>> you
>>>>>>>>> referenced.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>> Daniel.
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>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
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