Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2451D1814D for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 06:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35776 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2015 06:51:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35574 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2015 06:51:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35562 invoked by uid 99); 18 Nov 2015 06:51:31 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 06:51:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 8A92DC0EC7 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 06:51:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.102 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VWy06ei8J1cP for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 06:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com (mail-io0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 79CF822F0A for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 06:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ioc74 with SMTP id 74so44056172ioc.2 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:51:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cPXFKAlX9JCehh9aO5HTO+dqPKgrMUkCsaQyauN5H/M=; b=KCN5pPnPzXRBA7OT1yaq6CGSXGKp9X1fcbUPLnxYFMtxhF3OrUr116dS454rdp8HUy z4KnmxPAa3CunjIBAtgtkpfEGrqCTmSk70rhmYTgkYg+9cqO6BqDgoXabZW1qDtENB6z 7QBYc8d1yZ9powpg/0plwCmHZUpYjTZ56V0yJcJXzuB/ljyochfnkPjQMJiAttZV+tjs NDwVU5GNowxsjZoiMRO7JjrcwLmpaUAG9Nr3yDpKEAqcYH4LAnYlhvk+6efL/guW6xqJ aR1ymY2K23VXrT2R9ToAC9XlAkaFUVdpA4WBvEi8uOvVOsNI2vOSSLbmUXd89go4DCzf lC+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.5.144 with SMTP id 138mr1477305iof.161.1447829488969; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.67.2 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20151118002750.GF4878@tpx> <20151118004211.GJ4878@tpx> <20151118020419.GL4878@tpx> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:51:28 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal From: Henry Saputra To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Todd, One concern, other IPMCs could help correct me if I am wrong, for project that already open source and accepting contributions from individuals which not part of initial committers is that it needs to get the consent or grant from those contributors when moving to ASF. Unless, the individuals have already signed the one for Cloudera when contributing to Kudu. Want to make sure the software grant concern be addressed early. Thanks, - Henry On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Luke Han wrote: > >> In "community" section of this proposal, there are many companies >> have been mentioned including Xiaomi, Dropbox, Intel and Dremio, >> and said there are contributions from them. >> >> I think their engineers are more interesting and be involved >> in Kudu actively, why not think about to invite them to be committer first? >> > > Per earlier messages on the thread and per the proposal: because they > haven't yet shown significant contributions over a sustained period. > Interest is one thing, but interest is not sufficient to become a committer > in a meritocracy. The folks called out in the community section are those > who have interest and are somewhere on the path towards committership, but > aren't there yet. I have every hope (and expectation) that they will get > there if they keep up their good work. > > I would rather not discuss specific people's progress towards committership > in a public forum. Rather, I hoped that we could start with the proposed > committer list, and during incubation we can discuss potential new > committers and PMC members following the typical ASF processes on our > PPMC's private list. I'm counting on our experienced mentors to keep us all > honest -- they should absolutely call us out if the initial committers act > exclusionary or otherwise violate the ASF principles of being an inclusive > meritocracy. > > -Todd --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org