Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C48917E4A for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35754 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2015 12:43:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35549 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2015 12:43:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35537 invoked by uid 99); 5 Nov 2015 12:43:18 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 12:43:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id E6A91C070B for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:43:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sLwOdRJBmBhl for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 69581444F3 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D26621CA5 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 07:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 05 Nov 2015 07:43:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=pISSBZJK4lTsKlf +7mEF/nkLKgE=; b=hqrcUueQGYOVreHAyA3O0oVkc3QPwqlFBztNU9ebi1nQfRK NFAhNDujWv/ayj/rcJFOV7plr1uhdvOQT+1GLPnRqcmi98GLn16F6FvSEkMQOWgm LhRTH25RxsPtF2/1Wi3tfIe1zOhQJnAZcgPPPiJpY6Onnr0/cyLCBY5FuL6c= X-Sasl-enc: lfFERTO4pZ1ffq5SpN4qZ3oXzMTmdmtRbUQ/0kwQ1gxb 1446727381 Received: from [192.168.0.40] (cpe-76-182-41-142.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.41.142]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DEAF7C016C4 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 07:43:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation To: general@incubator.apache.org References: <1446465555.3149570.426574697.76AAA52B@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1446654749.1533446.429046241.294D4F7B@webmail.messagingengine.com> <66713E00-9EB5-4BE4-B8BE-F4F3202492A0@gmail.com> From: Joe Brockmeier Message-ID: <563B4ED5.8090204@zonker.net> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 07:43:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/05/2015 01:34 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Thanks Lenni. If Joe will permit me to put some words in his mouth, > he seems to be focused on how the project is solving coordination problems. > Coming to agreement on things like what to include in a release for > instance, which jiras get punted to which release schedules, etc, it's hard to see > the rhyme or reason why these things are happening with the timing you are using. Yes. This is accurate. > I'm perfectly personally satisfied with the manner in which tickets are > being resolved, > but am inclined to trust Joe's instincts that more prior discussion about > planning and > such should be taking place on-list. David has echoed these concerns as > well. Much appreciated. Thanks! Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier jzb@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org