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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 12:14:20 -0800
From: Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal
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My point exactly, thanks Henry!

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:51PM, Henry Saputra wrote:
> Hi Todd,
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> One concern, other IPMCs could help correct me if I am wrong, for
> project that already open source and accepting contributions from
> individuals which not part of initial committers is that it needs to
> get the consent or grant from those contributors when moving to ASF.
> Unless, the individuals have already signed the one for Cloudera when
> contributing to Kudu.
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> Want to make sure the software grant concern be addressed early.
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> Thanks,
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> - Henry
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> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Todd Lipcon <todd@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Luke Han <luke.hq@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In "community" section of this proposal, there are many companies
> >> have been mentioned including Xiaomi, Dropbox, Intel and Dremio,
> >> and said there are contributions from them.
> >>
> >> I think their engineers are more interesting and be involved
> >> in Kudu actively, why not think about to invite them to be committer f=
irst?
> >>
> >
> > Per earlier messages on the thread and per the proposal: because they
> > haven't yet shown significant contributions over a sustained period.
> > Interest is one thing, but interest is not sufficient to become a commi=
tter
> > in a meritocracy. The folks called out in the community section are tho=
se
> > who have interest and are somewhere on the path towards committership, =
but
> > aren't there yet. I have every hope (and expectation) that they will get
> > there if they keep up their good work.
> >
> > I would rather not discuss specific people's progress towards committer=
ship
> > in a public forum. Rather, I hoped that we could start with the proposed
> > committer list, and during incubation we can discuss potential new
> > committers and PMC members following the typical ASF processes on our
> > PPMC's private list. I'm counting on our experienced mentors to keep us=
 all
> > honest -- they should absolutely call us out if the initial committers =
act
> > exclusionary or otherwise violate the ASF principles of being an inclus=
ive
> > meritocracy.
> >
> > -Todd
>=20
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