Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92A591866C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66611 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2015 02:04:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 66411 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2015 02:04:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 66397 invoked by uid 99); 18 Nov 2015 02:04:34 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:04:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 8268EC3924 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:04:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dfSygwbGSB-G for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B462720FF5 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.234]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id iq3h1r00453iAfU01q4LCr; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:04:20 +0000 Received: from tpx ([24.130.135.131]) by resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id iq4K1r00A2qGB6001q4KYN; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:04:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tpx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A19200AD101 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 18:04:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 18:04:19 -0800 From: Konstantin Boudnik To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal Message-ID: <20151118020419.GL4878@tpx> References: <20151118002750.GF4878@tpx> <20151118004211.GJ4878@tpx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="64LDleNqNegJ4g97" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: It's something of 'Cos X-PGP-Key: http://www.boudnik.org/~cos/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1447812260; bh=1ImjRmivrln08CAPlDf59ofL5UnWl0BfYJKY79ruXlU=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qRw6PMf1BH1Mmn9Qw9Lvk2HmhK2Yb9513C7hynWVhEnoxBOoUktLSCiUxXCdbIyxY yzc8W7dIstR6J1AQVXZX8h+8nQ+1HgGPPTRfmk/hQA6gkR6lmkI1+WxIDrG+RfwQbJ emfZJ7g5g4hxV9GSta9hW8SsasnWjT30FYvfiNsMWXEy8SDyXuVFq2KOLa+S4vnZBS apjRoG/U29ryqY9QSNaPVF5hdjKJkoRQFEVvG2uZt3wj2VmPVk0FZH+OonOTBeTMPb g2KMgBAkzpYvKGuJoXNIwJhunPMo5U7RAPwzev1n6ClTRorsGZ+IdRYqdvpppXTdPK OJSMbu9wGIOxA== --64LDleNqNegJ4g97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 04:53PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrot= e: >=20 > > So, you're saying that people were chosen to be listed or not as the > > contributors merely by the amount of the code they have contributed to = the > > project. Am I reading this right? >=20 > We've had this debate about committer cattle call additions many > times. The position that Todd is taking is completely reasonable. The > expectation that just about anybody can join a project during the > proposal phase is messed up and I wish that tradition had never caught That's not my point, Marvin. The people who contributed less than 20 commits (hmm, why not 4 or a 107?) are still contributors. And in my opinion, they = at least have to be invited to participate in the podling, if it is accepted by IPMC. So, I will re-phrase: "was an invitation to participate in the project extended to all contributors?". Shall it be done formally or by providing "Interested Party" is an implementation detail.=20 Cos > on. Instead, there ought to be an "Interested Party" section in the > proposal template where people can express interest and "subscribe to > your newsletter". >=20 --64LDleNqNegJ4g97 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlZL3KMACgkQenyFlstYjhIVvgEAvJLyjHXhYdsgi4jMlCYGG4sv p78jPz8t921qkTZtkQ8A/3w805Mll4mZwgva3CMgXn/OdpInW65vgxh2b34ZvxyU =iQgF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --64LDleNqNegJ4g97--