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From Brian Spector <brian.spec...@miracl.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation
Date Tue, 24 Nov 2015 07:43:05 GMT
Hi All,

thanks for everyone's feedback and Sterling thank you for graciously coming
on board as an additional mentor.

I'd like to propose that the proposed Apache OpenMiracl incubation project
be renamed to Apache Milagro.

A Milagro is a charm that is used to bring about a miracle, so the subtext
hopefully will carry the day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milagro_(votive)

Alex, thanks for getting the ball rolling on this line of thinking.

We've filed on the trademarks for these which will assign in totality to
the Apache Foundation. The EU marks should be cleared shortly and from
which can be used to get worldwide marks.

If anyone has any objection or comments, could you please let us know?

Thanks
Brian

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Patrick Hilt <patrick.hilt@miracl.com>
wrote:

> Hi Greg,
> thanks for the input. We definitely appreciate it. We currently discussing
> that internally and it’s great to hear from someone who has been through
> this. The approach you took    with HAWQ is quite interesting.
>
> Thanks again,
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Hilt
> Chief Technology Officer
> MIRACL
>
> > On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Gregory Chase <gchase@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> > Having been through this twice now with "Pivotal GemFire" begatting
> "Apache
> > Geode" and "Pivotal HAWQ" becoming "Apache HAWQ"....
> >
> > If the current owner intends to allow infringement on the MIRACL brand
> as a
> > policy by any user of Apache Miracl, then that should be ok.  In effect
> > they will be putting "MIRACL" into the public domain.
> >
> > If the owner intends to license "MIRACL" for Apache's use only - how does
> > this extend to Apache's users?
> >
> > For my company, we decided it was better to ensure the commercial
> > distribution and the Apache projects did not infringe on each others
> > brands.  And we have done both approaches:  suggest a new brand for
> Apache,
> > and give an existing brand to Apache and rebrand the commercial
> > distribution.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Nick Kew <niq@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 08:48 +0900, Brian Spector wrote:
> >>> Hi Alex, thank you for the suggestion, but from our point of view, as I
> >>> outlined below, we would disadvantage the project as a whole by not
> >> having
> >>> the MIRACL name in it.
> >>>
> >>> At the same time, I completely understand the concern that a company
> who
> >>> creates a product based on OpenMiracl might feel themselves
> disadvantaged
> >>> by having to state an attribution 'based on Apache OpenMiracl' while
> >>> MIRACL, the company, sells a product called Datacenter Cryptosystem
> will
> >>> also say 'based on Apache OpenMiracl'. We get that.
> >>
> >> If folks are uneasy about OpenMiracl, how far does that extend?
> >> Would (for example) a name taking the "Mira" stem be sufficiently
> >> distinct for those expressing concerns here?  For example,
> >> Mirabile (Latin pronunciation) kind-of offers an element of
> >> historic continuity through the linguistic association with
> >> the miracle.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nick Kew
> >>
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> >
> > --
> > Greg Chase
> >
> > Director of Big Data Communities
> > http://www.pivotal.io/big-data
> >
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> >
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>
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