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From Joe Schaefer <joes...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)
Date Wed, 18 Nov 2015 06:19:30 GMT
Come on folks it's not cut and dry.  Httpd uses both without fuss about
roles, trust, etc.  This is a process issue much like the choice of version
control tool you select, it really is not a big deal.

On Wednesday, November 18, 2015, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

> I see the essence of what it means to be a committer. Being trusted to
> both do the correct action and be willing to listen objectively to
> criticism. In an CTR project it is clear to me that the point where a
> project grants Committership should be the point where the PMC wants to
> treat an individual's contribution as CTR rather than RTC. How does an RTC
> project make THAT important decision?
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 17, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 06:01 PM, Rob Vesse wrote:
> >>> On 17/11/2015 16:50, "Steve Loughran" <stevel@hortonworks.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If someone were to have some metrics of projects, the state of
> >>> patches/pull requests would be a key issue.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/rvesse/gh-pr-stats
> >>
> >> Given a GitHub project generates statistics about the state of the Pull
> >> Requests in the project e.g.
> >>
> >> ./pr-stats apache hadoop
> >>
> >> Fairly basic tool but should give you enough to gauge where things are
> >
> > One of the things that this conversation seems to miss, to me, is
> > defining what "C" is.
> >
> > In some sense, C is simply the act of publishing a change. The change
> > MUST be published before the review, otherwise review is, obviously,
> > impossible (how can you review something you cannot see?)
> >
> > What's important, as I think Greg was saying earlier, is *how we relate
> > to each other*. Do I need to ask for PERMISSION to finally push a change
> > through, or do my colleagues trust me to do the right thing, knowing
> > that I'll listen to their feedback, whether the review mechanism is a
> > commit mailing list, a JIRA ticket or a pull request.
> >
> > Please define what you mean by CTR or RTC before diving into further
> > discussions about their relative merit. Otherwise we'll get locked into
> > yet another ongoing discussion that leads nowhere!
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
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