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From Patrick Hunt <phu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation
Date Mon, 02 Nov 2015 20:57:48 GMT
I see this (the release discussion threads you linked) as a semi-mature
community that's well aligned. A number of folks responded to the request
for discussion and said they were in favor. It was done on the ML in the
open. What more do we want? I don't see anyone excluded and I'm sure if
there was a new person looking to get involved they would have been
welcomed into the discussion, no one is being turned away from what I can
see.

Patrick

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> wrote:

> On 11/02/2015 01:09 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> > Joe, can we see some jira tickets that you find questionable?  Hard to
> tell
> > what the problem is just by scanning the email traffic.
>
> I'll (again) point to the previous conversation that came out of David's
> discussion with Sentry folks at ApacheCon [1] and then the reply from
> Arvind which basically says he doesn't consider it an issue if the
> project is "following a roadmap the community does not have control
> over... that too is not an issue in my opinion at all." [2]
>
> It's not specific tickets - it's (again) that there appears to be a lot
> of discussion and planning taking place off-list, out of sight. Take the
> 1.6.0 release discussion - no roadmap discussed for 1.6.0 at all, it
> just appeared [3] and then within 15 minutes there's an "I agree, and
> I'll be release manager!" [4] message and then several +1 / "I agree"
> messages, and then .. done. This looks a lot to me like planning and
> decisions happening off-list and then a cursory "discussion" for
> appearance's sake.
>
> How is a person who's not tapped into the Sentry development process
> already supposed to get involved? How is this building community? I see
> the Sentry podling creating code... just not much evidence of a
> community outside what Sentry came in with.
>
> [1] http://s.apache.org/611
> [2] http://s.apache.org/bhQ
> [3] http://s.apache.org/ZRV
> [4] http://s.apache.org/g9v
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
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> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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