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From Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation
Date Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:26:11 GMT
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org> wrote:
> > ...If you read the graduation requirements it says nothing about adding
> PPMC
> > as a strict requirement to graduation:
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator
> ...
>
> I agree but in the meantime we have
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
> which many agree is a more fine grained evaluation of a project's
> health.
>
>
Is that a rubric for incubation? I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the
incubator documents.

Maturity is fine, but it's relative. We're talking about an incubator here,
not a full grown chick.


> >
> > ...Bertrand - you had stated a strong "-1" previously. Are you now
> saying that
> > you would be +1? ...
>
> I'd have to be convinced that there is a very good reason why no PPMC
> members have been added during incubation, as that's not a good sign.
>
>
So you are -1 then. That's fine. But it gets back to my original concern.
It's artificial. I can go back to the Sentry community and say "hey, you
need some PPMC members, vote some in" and they might do it. It was already
mentioned earlier in this thread that one of the mentors feels that a
couple of committers are ready. If they come back in a week and say "hey,
we just voted in 3 new ppmc members, now we're ready right?" you'll be fine
with that? This is why I highlighted it as artificial.

Patrick


> -Bertrand
>
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