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From Arvind Prabhakar <arv...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation
Date Mon, 02 Nov 2015 23:04:36 GMT
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> wrote:

> <snip>
> ... the reply from
> Arvind which basically says he doesn't consider it an issue if the
> project is "following a roadmap the community does not have control
> over... that too is not an issue in my opinion at all." [2]
>
</snip>


Joe - I trust and respect you enough to feel that this is unintentional,
but I am being taken out of context. In this and previous emails you have
suggested that I admit and approve of an external entity controlling
Sentry. This is a gross misrepresentation. Please stop implying that for
your future responses as it was not what I said or meant.

It is very clear to me that you have taken a firm stance in how you feel
about the project based on high level observations from interactions of
other mentors. If you were to actually engage with the community, see for
yourself how the Jira communication is handled by the project, I think it
may give you information that you may be missing.

Regards,
Arvind Prabhakar

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015, at 04:59 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/02/2015 04:41 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur wrote:
> > > > I think it is a good sign that community is volunteering to do the
> > > release
> > > > work.
> > >
> > > I think the point I'm making is largely being ignored. I'm not seeing
> > > much room for volunteers, and a lot of indication that
> > > conversations/decisions are happening off list and being carried back
> > > rather than being done entirely openly.
> > >
> > >
> > Sorry, I don't think it's being ignored, just that the rest of us are not
> > able to see the same issues.
> >
> > For example I see over 30 committers on the Sentry status page.
> > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/sentry.html
>
> Sentry started with 24 committers/PPMC. It hasn't added any PPMC members
> since its inception. (IIRC there was some mention on a thread of if
> there was a graduation vote all committers being PMC, but I haven't
> found that reference.)
>
> Note: I'm going to stop thread-sitting for the rest of the day and check
> back in tomorrow.
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
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