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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)
Date Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:43:45 GMT
Of course it is community-based! (never said otherwise)

And my points are attempting to inform people about the underlying
principles of trust in these two modes of community operation. And (IMO)
that RTC is a horrible underpinning, preventing an establishment of a true
trust relationship among the members of the community. RTC leads with "I
don't trust you". CTR leads with "I trust you."

Others may justify their use of RTC under the rubric of "complexity", but
as I stated else-thread that is merely an excuse. There is no
justification, other than control. "Greg: you cannot fix javadoc tags. We
don't trust you. Each fix must be reviewed first, and approved." Hah.

-g


On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
wrote:

> No... That is a resolution in play based on consensus by the community. You
> may question that. But it is better done there.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hunh? How do you get that? I trust my fellow committers. That's not
> > projection.
> >
> > If I joined Hadoop right now, RTC says I cannot commit without review.
> That
> > is called "lack of trust". That I am unable to determine what is safe to
> > commit, and what I feel I need help with to safely commit.
> >
> > -g
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That is what I say: you're projecting.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> pierre.smits@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >...
> > > >
> > > > > And by the way, this has little to do with trust. More with hope.
> As
> > > in:
> > > > we
> > > > > hope they won't abuse our trust. It seems you're projecting trust
> > > issues!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is ALL about trust. I've worked in the httpd, apr, and svn
> projects
> > > > here. I trust all of my fellow community members to commit
> > appropriately.
> > > > Hope doesn't come into play at all. I trust them.
> > > >
> > > > -g
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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