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From Joe Brockmeier <...@zonker.net>
Subject Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation
Date Mon, 02 Nov 2015 20:28:20 GMT
On 11/02/2015 01:09 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Joe, can we see some jira tickets that you find questionable?  Hard to tell
> what the problem is just by scanning the email traffic.

I'll (again) point to the previous conversation that came out of David's
discussion with Sentry folks at ApacheCon [1] and then the reply from
Arvind which basically says he doesn't consider it an issue if the
project is "following a roadmap the community does not have control
over... that too is not an issue in my opinion at all." [2]

It's not specific tickets - it's (again) that there appears to be a lot
of discussion and planning taking place off-list, out of sight. Take the
1.6.0 release discussion - no roadmap discussed for 1.6.0 at all, it
just appeared [3] and then within 15 minutes there's an "I agree, and
I'll be release manager!" [4] message and then several +1 / "I agree"
messages, and then .. done. This looks a lot to me like planning and
decisions happening off-list and then a cursory "discussion" for
appearance's sake.

How is a person who's not tapped into the Sentry development process
already supposed to get involved? How is this building community? I see
the Sentry podling creating code... just not much evidence of a
community outside what Sentry came in with.

[1] http://s.apache.org/611
[2] http://s.apache.org/bhQ
[3] http://s.apache.org/ZRV
[4] http://s.apache.org/g9v
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Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

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