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From Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
Subject Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)
Date Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:05:57 GMT
Yes, it would be good to take a survey.  Interestingly, I wasn’t aware that ANY Apache projects
used RTC until I became involved with a project in the Hadoop ecosystem, which seems to align
with Tood’s statement since all the projects he is listed as being involved in are part
of that.  In fact, when I was mentoring the project I am familiar with I asked during incubation
why they wanted to use RTC and was told that it was because that is the way all Hadoop related
projects worked. Since most of the committers were paid to work on the project by their employer
I also got the feeling that it aligned with that.

Ralph

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:12PM, Todd Lipcon wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecharny@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Except that there seems to be great disagreement among the Members as to
>>>> whether RTC is somehow anti-Apache-Way.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to try to create an ASF-wide resolution that RTC doesn't
>>> follow
>>>> the Apache Way, and get the board/membership to vote on it, go ahead, but
>>>> it confuses podlings who are new to the ASF when people espouse personal
>>>> opinions as if they are ASF rules.
>>> 
>>> That is not the point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The question is not to decide if C-T-R is The Apache Way over R-T-C. The
>>> question is wether a project entering incubation with a selected R-T-C
>>> mode is likely to exit incubation for the simple reason it will be very
>>> hard for this project to grow its community due to this choice. It's
>>> like starting a 100m race with a 20kb backpack on your shoulder...
>>> 
>> 
>> If you have any statistics that show this to be the case, I'd be very
>> interested. RTC is the norm in basically every Apache project I've been a
>> part of, many of which have thriving communities and are generally regarded
>> as successful software projects.
> 
> Do you have any statistics on that, Todd? Would be very interesting to see,
> indeed.
> 



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