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From Konstantin Boudnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator
Date Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:50:11 GMT
Come to think of it a bit more, yes I am not satisfied with the outcome of
the CTR/RTC exchange in the project.

Hence changing my vote to
 -1 [binding]

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:47AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> -0 [binding]
> 
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 01:03PM, Henry Robinson wrote:
> > Hi -
> > 
> > The [DISCUSS] thread has been quiet for a few days, so I think there's been
> > sufficient opportunity for discussion around our proposal to bring Impala
> > to the ASF Incubator.
> > 
> > I'd like to call a VOTE on that proposal, which is on the wiki at
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ImpalaProposal, and which I've pasted
> > below.
> > 
> > During the discussion period, the proposal has been amended to add Brock
> > Noland as a new mentor, to add one missed committer from the list and to
> > correct some issues with the dependency list.
> > 
> > Please cast your votes as follows:
> > 
> > [] +1, accept Impala into the Incubator
> > [] +/-0, non-counted vote to express a disposition
> > [] -1, do not accept Impala into the Incubator (please give your reason(s))
> > 
> > As with the concurrent Kudu vote, I propose leaving the vote open for a
> > full seven days (to close at Tuesday, December 1st at noon PST), due to the
> > upcoming US holiday.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Henry
> > 
> > --------
> > 
> > = Abstract =
> > Impala is a high-performance C++ and Java SQL query engine for data stored
> > in Apache Hadoop-based clusters.
> > 
> > = Proposal =
> > 
> > We propose to contribute the Impala codebase and associated artifacts (e.g.
> > documentation, web-site content etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation
> > with the intent of forming a productive, meritocratic and open community
> > around Impala’s continued development, according to the ‘Apache Way’.
> > 
> > Cloudera owns several trademarks regarding Impala, and proposes to transfer
> > ownership of those trademarks in full to the ASF.
> > 
> > = Background =
> > Engineers at Cloudera developed Impala and released it as an
> > Apache-licensed open-source project in Fall 2012. Impala was written as a
> > brand-new, modern C++ SQL engine targeted from the start for data stored in
> > Apache Hadoop clusters.
> > 
> > Impala’s most important benefit to users is high-performance, making it
> > extremely appropriate for common enterprise analytic and business
> > intelligence workloads. This is achieved by a number of software
> > techniques, including: native support for data stored in HDFS and related
> > filesystems, just-in-time compilation and optimization of individual query
> > plans, high-performance C++ codebase and massively-parallel distributed
> > architecture. In benchmarks, Impala is routinely amongst the very highest
> > performing SQL query engines.
> > 
> > = Rationale =
> > 
> > Despite the exciting innovation in the so-called ‘big-data’ space, SQL
> > remains by far the most common interface for interacting with data in both
> > traditional warehouses and modern ‘big-data’ clusters. There is clearly a
> > need, as evidenced by the eager adoption of Impala and other SQL engines in
> > enterprise contexts, for a query engine that offers the familiar SQL
> > interface, but that has been specifically designed to operate in massive,
> > distributed clusters rather than in traditional, fixed-hardware,
> > warehouse-specific deployments. Impala is one such query engine.
> > 
> > We believe that the ASF is the right venue to foster an open-source
> > community around Impala’s development. We expect that Impala will benefit
> > from more productive collaboration with related Apache projects, and under
> > the auspices of the ASF will attract talented contributors who will push
> > Impala’s development forward at pace.
> > 
> > We believe that the timing is right for Impala’s development to move
> > wholesale to the ASF: Impala is well-established, has been Apache-licensed
> > open-source for more than three years, and the core project is relatively
> > stable. We are excited to see where an ASF-based community can take Impala
> > from this strong starting point.
> > 
> > = Initial Goals =
> > Our initial goals are as follows:
> > 
> >  * Establish ASF-compatible engineering practices and workflows
> >  * Refactor and publish existing internal build scripts and test
> > infrastructure, in order to make them usable by any community member.
> >  * Transfer source code, documentation and associated artifacts to the ASF.
> >  * Grow the user and developer communities
> > 
> > = Current Status =
> > 
> > Impala is developed as an Apache-licensed open-source project. The source
> > code is available at http://github.com/cloudera/Impala, and developer
> > documentation is at https://github.com/cloudera/Impala/wiki. The majority
> > of commits to the project have come from Cloudera-employed developers, but
> > we have accepted some contributions from individuals from other
> > organizations.
> > 
> > All code reviews are done via a public instance of the Gerrit review tool
> > at http://gerrit.cloudera.org:8080/, and discussed on a public mailing
> > list. All patches must be reviewed before they are accepted into the
> > codebase, via a voting mechanism that is similar to that used on Apache
> > projects such as Hadoop and HBase.
> > 
> > Before a patch is committed, it must pass a suite of pre-commit tests.
> > These tests are currently run on Cloudera’s internal infrastructure. One of
> > our initial goals will be to work with the ASF Infrastructure team to find
> > a way to run these tests in an acceptable way on publicly accessible
> > machines.
> > 
> > Issues are tracked in JIRA at https://issues.cloudera.org/projects/IMPALA,
> > in a way that is extremely similar to existing practices at other ASF
> > projects.
> > 
> > = Meritocracy =
> > 
> > We understand the central importance of meritocracy to the Apache Way. We
> > will work to establish a welcoming, fair and meritocratic community, in
> > part by expanding the set of committers on the project. Although Impala’s
> > committer list will initially be dominated by members of the Impala
> > engineering team at Cloudera, we look forward to growing a rich user and
> > developer community.
> > 
> > = Community =
> > Impala has a strong user community (see
> > https://groups.google.com/a/cloudera.org/forum/#!forum/impala-user), and a
> > growing developer community (see
> > https://groups.google.com/a/cloudera.org/forum/#!forum/impala-dev). We wish
> > to attract more developers to the project, and we believe that the ASF’s
> > open and meritocratic philosophy will help us with this. We note the
> > success of other, similar projects already part of the ASF.
> > 
> > = Core Developers =
> > Most - but not all - of Impala’s core developers are not currently
> > affiliated with the ASF, and will require new ICLAs.
> > 
> > = Alignment =
> > Impala is related to several other Apache projects:
> > 
> >  * Data that is read by Impala is very often stored in Apache Hadoop
> > clusters powered by the HDFS filesystem.
> >  * Impala can also read data stored in Apache HBase
> >  * Metadata for databases, tables and so on is read by Impala from Apache
> > Hive.
> >  * The preferred data format for HDFS-based tables is Apache Parquet, and
> > Apache Avro is also a supported data format.
> >  * Impala is closely integrated with Kudu, which is also being proposed to
> > the Incubator.
> >  * Impala uses Apache Thrift as its RPC and serialization framework of
> > choice.
> > 
> > = Known Risks =
> > 
> > == Orphaned Products ==
> > Impala is used by most of Cloudera’s customers, and Cloudera remains
> > committed to developing and supporting the project. Cloudera has a strong
> > track record in standing behind projects that were contributed to the ASF
> > by its employees, including Apache Flume, Apache Sqoop, and others. Other
> > companies both ship and support Impala, lending credence to the idea that
> > Impala is not at risk of being suddenly orphaned.
> > 
> > == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> > Although all committers on the initial list have significant experience
> > with at least one open-source project - namely Impala - fewer have much
> > experience with ASF-based software projects as contributors and community
> > members. However, with the guidance of our mentors, committers who do have
> > ASF experience, and time to learn during Incubation, we are confident that
> > the project can be run in accordance with Apache principles on an ongoing
> > basis.
> > 
> > == Homogeneous Developers ==
> > 
> > The initial committers are employees of Cloudera.
> > 
> > The project has received some contributions from developers outside of
> > Cloudera, from individuals belonging to organizations such as Intel and
> > Google, from hobbyists and from students using Impala to advance their
> > understanding of distributed databases. The project attracted an active
> > user community as well. We hope to continue to encourage contributions from
> > these developers and community members and grow them into committers after
> > they have had time to continue their contributions.
> > 
> > == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> > 
> > Many of Impala’s initial set of committers work full-time on Impala, and
> > are paid to do so. However, as mentioned elsewhere, we anticipate growth in
> > the developer community which we hope will include hobbyists and academics
> > who have an interested in distributed data systems.
> > 
> > == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
> > Although we hope that Impala benefits from the Apache Brand, any reflected
> > goodwill to Cloudera as the contributing entity is not the goal of
> > establishing Impala as an Apache project. We will work with the Incubator
> > PMC and the PRC to ensure that the Apache Brand is respected.
> > 
> > = Documentation =
> > Impala: A Modern, Open-Source SQL Engine for Hadoop (
> > http://www.cidrdb.org/cidr2015/Papers/CIDR15_Paper28.pdf)
> > 
> > Impala’s developer wiki (https://github.com/cloudera/Impala/wiki)
> > 
> > Impala’s auto-generated API documentation (
> > http://impala.io/doc/html/index.html)
> > 
> > = Initial Source =
> > Impala’s initial source contribution will come from
> > http://github.com/cloudera/Impala/.
> > 
> > = External Dependencies =
> > 
> > Impala depends upon a number of third-party libraries, which we list below.
> > We intend to compile a LICENSE.txt file in the very short term (see
> > https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/IMPALA-2670).
> > 
> >  * Google gflags (BSD)
> >  * Google glog (BSD)
> >  * Apache Thrift (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache Commons (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache Hadoop (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache HBase (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache Hive (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Boost (Boost Software License)
> >  * OpenLdap (OpenLDAP Software License)
> >  * rapidjson (MIT)
> >  * Google RE2 (BSD-style)
> >  * lz4 (BSD)
> >  * snappy (BSD)
> >  * cyrus-sasl (CMU License)
> >  * Apache Avro (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Cloudera squeasel (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache htrace (Incubating) (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache Sentry (Incubating) (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache Shiro (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Twitter Bootstrap (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * d3 (BSD)
> >  * LLVM (BSD-like)
> > 
> > Build and test dependencies:
> > 
> >  * ant (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * Apache Maven (Apache Software License v2.0)
> >  * cmake (BSD)
> >  * clang (BSD)
> >  * Google gtest (Apache Software License v2.0)
> > 
> > = Required Resources =
> > 
> > We request that following resources be created for the project to use:
> > 
> > == Mailing lists ==
> > 
> >  * private@impala.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
> >  * commits@impala.incubator.apache.org
> >  * dev@impala.incubator.apache.org
> >  * issues@impala.incubator.apache.org
> >  * user@impala.incubator.apache.org
> > 
> > == Git repository ==
> > https://git.apache.org/impala.git
> > 
> > == JIRA instance ==
> > JIRA project IMPALA (IMPALA or IMP)
> > 
> > == Other Resources ==
> > We hope to continue using Gerrit for our code review and commit workflow.
> > We are involved with discussions that the Kudu team at Cloudera have been
> > having with Jake Farrell to start discussions on how Gerrit can fit into
> > the ASF. We know that several other ASF projects or podlings are also
> > interested in Gerrit.
> > 
> > If the Infrastructure team does not have the bandwidth to support gerrit,
> > we will continue to support our own instance of gerrit for Impala, and make
> > the necessary integrations such that commits are properly authenticated and
> > maintain sufficient provenance to uphold the ASF standards (e.g. via the
> > solution adopted by the AsterixDB podling).
> > 
> > = Initial Committers =
> > 
> >  * Tim Armstrong
> >  * Alex Behm
> >  * Taras Bobrovytsky
> >  * Casey Ching
> >  * Martin Grund
> >  * Daniel Hecht
> >  * Michael Ho
> >  * Matthew Jacobs
> >  * Ishaan Joshi
> >  * Lenni Kuff
> >  * Marcel Kornacker
> >  * Sailesh Mukil
> >  * Henry Robinson
> >  * John Russell
> >  * Dimitris Tsirogiannis
> >  * Skye Wanderman-Milne
> >  * Juan Yu
> > 
> > == Affiliations ==
> > All: Cloudera Inc.
> > 
> > = Sponsors =
> > 
> > == Champion ==
> > Tom White
> > 
> > == Nominated Mentors ==
> >  * Tom White (Cloudera)
> >  * Todd Lipcon (Cloudera)
> >  * Carl Steinbach (LinkedIn)
> >  * Brock Noland (StreamSets)
> > 
> > 
> > = Sponsoring Entity =
> > We ask that the Incubator PMC sponsor this proposal.



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