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From Konstantin Boudnik <>
Subject Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)
Date Wed, 25 Nov 2015 02:08:12 GMT
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:29PM, Harbs wrote:
> This kind of underscores my observation that a large part of this debate is
> driven by source control technologies.
> RTC seems popular for projects using Git, while CTR seems popular in
> communities using SVN.

Well, Apache Bigtop is now _officially_ a CTR after a few months of
discussions within the community and a few months of trials. And yeah - we are
using git from day one. 

I don't think Git is particularly empowering RTC - there's nothing in it that
requires someone to look over one's shoulder. In Hadoop, HBase and some other
projects I've heard about the default review mode is via patch attached to a
JIRA ticket. And it has nothing to do with git or svn.


> RTC is a LOT easier using Git than SVN if the model is branching.
> FWIW, I personally could swallow using RTC with Git, but I would seriously
> have problems with RTC with SVN.
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> >> 3. community building
> >> 
> >> Lots of successful open source projects, both inside and outside ASF,
> >> employ RTC. As Todd mentioned, almost all the top 10 most starred (on
> >> github) projects use some form of RTC, so it is hard for me to believe that
> >> RTC would hinder community building. Of course, one can always argue that
> >> if those projects had employed CTR, maybe they would've been even more
> >> popular. But then we got into the area that we just have to agree to
> >> disagree.
> >> 
> > 
> > Well, you could also look at
> > ... I believe those top 10 are *all*
> > CTR. ... in fact, of ALL projects tracked by openhub, httpd and svn are #2
> > and #4 respectively[*]. They are models of communities where trust rules
> > and CTR is the basis of operation.
> > 
> > Using GitHub as a proxy for evaluation skews towards git-based projects,
> > whereas openhub is tool independent.

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